MKEK9

1. just want to see if anyone knows how to tell difference between a JDM Orthia b20 block from a JDM CRV b20 block? how can i tell?
(i have a 97 JDM b20 block, but i dont know if it came from an Orthia or CRV)

2. also, what head does an Orthia have?
(i know the CRV block comes with either P75 or P8R head)

B18CivicEH2

dude...i allready told you this..

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JDM
96-98 Honda Orthia
143 HP, 132 ft/lbs TQ
9.2:1 compression

96-98 Honda Step Wagon
123 HP,133 ft/lbs TQ
9.2:1 compression

99-00 Honda Step Wagon
134 HP, 136 ft/lbs TQ
9.6:1 compression

96-98 Honda CRV (two variants)
128 HP, 136 ft/lbs TQ
8.8:1 compression
143 HP, 132 ft/lbs TQ
9.2:1 compression

99-00 Honda CRV
148 HP, 136 ft/lbs TQ
9.6:1 compression

96-98 Honda SM-X
128 HP, 135 ft/lbs TQ
8.8:1 compression

99-00 Honda SM-X
138 HP, 137 ft/lbs TQ
9.6:1 compression

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18CivicEH2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well...the 96-98 Orithia came with a P8R head...the 96-98 Step Wagon also came with P8R head..the 96-98 CRV came with either P8R heads or P75...so its either a SM-X, CRV or 99-00 Step Wagon..</TD></TR></TABLE>



since you have a P75 head...YOU DONT HAVE AN Orithia

MKEK9

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since you have a P75 head...YOU DONT HAVE AN Orithia</TD></TR></TABLE>


thanks, just wondering if you know what head the 96-98 Step Wagon have?
(i noticed it has the higher compression ratio (9.2.1) according to your chart, but it has the 123 HP and 133 TORQUE resembling lower compression, just wondering if that is a typo on the chart?

B18CivicEH2

not a type-o....numbers were taken from japan's honda website

MKEK9

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thanks, so just to make sure...according to your chart...

96-98 step wagon has P8R head?
99-00 step wagon also has P8R head?


(since they both have higher compression of 9.6.1 and 9.2.1)

B18CivicEH2

not sure but your head is a 96 cast which was from a 97 car, so i dont see why it matters..

MKEK9

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sorry, because now i am getting very curious....


if the 99-00 step wagon <U>may</U> have a p75 head w/ high compression (9.6.1), does that mean that there are some b20 motors with p75 head that also has higher compression?

(so... not only P8R heads come with higher compression, but some P75 head motors also have higher compression?)


thanks in advance!!!

Deetz

I know this is a bump on this thread, but though i'd add some insight

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since you have a P75 head...YOU DONT HAVE AN Orithia</TD></TR></TABLE>

That is actually not correct.

I know for a fact that the 1999 Model Honda Orthia was available with a P75 head which is a higher compression model, as i just installed one into my EK hatch.





I don't know if there is even a way to tell if there is a difference between the engine between the Orthia and the CRV? I'm thinking they are the same.


Modified by Deetz at 4:31 AM 3/27/2008

Deetz

Btw, here's the car the engine came from so people know what it is

builtbynotorious.com

wow i have never heard of that car before is new

Deetz

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New? Not at all, it 1st came out in 1996 with 1.8L and the lower compression B20B, then it got revised with a newer look and more power in 1999. Last year of production was 2002. Many people have not heard of it because it came over seas only. It was based on an EK sedan chassis.

Here's an interior shot:

VN712

Wow Deetz, I always thought that was a custom intake mani. GOod info to know man.

Deetz

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ha ha, its actually found underneath the hood of every North American model CRV in 1999 and 2000. Its design to help mid range torque needed to move a heavier vehicle 4cly suv.

Here's a pic of a local 2000 model crv

VN712

Interesting, is it interchangeable between the 97-98 b20b model?