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Oil Change - help please
I'm doing an oil change right now on my girlfriend's 99 Ex and I put in 4 qts oil. is that too much, I guess the manual says 3.5 qts. Can i get away with 4, or should i drain some out?
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Re: Oil Change - help please (shawnhayes)
i have an 00 si and it says to put 4.1 or something like that into it.....and it never reads...i always have to put more.....a few days ago i added 2 extra quarts....maybe i burn a lot of oil or maybe i dont put enough but im scared to put too much when i do the change...anyone experienc this?
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Re: Oil Change - help please (CiRcUiTsi)
i have an 00 si and it says to put 4.1 or something like that into it.....and it never reads...i always have to put more.....a few days ago i added 2 extra quarts....maybe i burn a lot of oil or maybe i dont put enough but im scared to put too much when i do the change...anyone experienc this?
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Re: Oil Change - help please (blykins)
I've always heard that you can put a quart more in without engine damage... I've always put 4 in my civic.. Never had a problem.. No oil sitting in the crank.. I would not advise putting more than 1 quart more in though, the crank will sit in oil and airate it creating bubbles where they shouldn't be. A bubble of air does not protect the engine from anything.
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Re: Oil Change - help please (Hadji)
I've always heard that you can put a quart more in without engine damage... I've always put 4 in my civic.. Never had a problem.. No oil sitting in the crank.. I would not advise putting more than 1 quart more in though, the crank will sit in oil and airate it creating bubbles where they shouldn't be. A bubble of air does not protect the engine from anything.
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Re: Oil Change - help please (CivicSiRacer)
I feel less oil is better than more oil. More oil can blow seals, less oil will not do that. 3 quarts is better than 5.
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Re: Oil Change - help please (blykins)
Less oil can cause the engine to seize up.
That's why Honda has a FULL MARK, and a recommended amount of fill.
Can't anybody read the manual? Is everyone too stupid to realize this? Apparently, everybody is smarter than the guys who designed the engine and knows better that the engineer was a moron, and that he just didn't recommend enough oil?
Hmmph.
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Re: Oil Change - help please (90hatchforb16a)
have fun blowing out your gaskets you idiots
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Dear Tom and Ray:
Each time I had my car's oil changed at the dealership, the dipstick showed that the oil level was a quarter of an inch to almost an inch above the "full" level. According to the owner's manual, over-filling could damage the engine. I called this to the mechanic's attention several times, and each time he insisted that the amount he put in was correct. He also claimed the extra oil would cause no damage. Finally, he checked his oil-dispensing gauge and found that -- guess what? -- it was not accurate, after all. He then proceeded to correct it. I still want to know if that previous overfilling could have caused any damage. -- Will
Tom: It's unlikely, Will. It's true that overfilling the crankcase with oil can damage the engine. But in the vast majority of cars, you won't do any damage in the quantities we're talking about here.
Ray: A quarter of an inch on most dipsticks equals a quarter of a quart. And adding an extra quarter of a quart, or even half a quart, won't hurt anything.
Tom: When you overfill the crankcase by a quart or more, then you risk "foaming" the oil. If the oil level gets high enough, the spinning crankshaft can whip the oil up into a froth, like the stuff that sits on top of your cappuccino. And the problem with that is that the oil pump can't pump froth.
Ray: It's like trying to drink from a straw when there's not much left in the glass -- what you get is mostly air. And air can't lubricate your engine.
Tom: Now, there are some cars that are more sensitive to overfilling than others. Volkswagens with four-cylinder engines come to mind. And if you had one of those, and the mechanic overfilled it by half a quart, I'd tell you to have him drain the oil and refill it more precisely. But unless your owner's manual specifically warns you -- in dire language -- not to overfill the oil, I wouldn't worry about it unless it's approaching a quart over.
Ray: And by the way, your dealership should be giving you free oil changes for life. If you led it to discover that it was giving away an extra quarter of a quart of oil with every oil change, think of all the money you're now saving the dealership on oil!
Dear Tom and Ray:
Each time I had my car's oil changed at the dealership, the dipstick showed that the oil level was a quarter of an inch to almost an inch above the "full" level. According to the owner's manual, over-filling could damage the engine. I called this to the mechanic's attention several times, and each time he insisted that the amount he put in was correct. He also claimed the extra oil would cause no damage. Finally, he checked his oil-dispensing gauge and found that -- guess what? -- it was not accurate, after all. He then proceeded to correct it. I still want to know if that previous overfilling could have caused any damage. -- Will
Tom: It's unlikely, Will. It's true that overfilling the crankcase with oil can damage the engine. But in the vast majority of cars, you won't do any damage in the quantities we're talking about here.
Ray: A quarter of an inch on most dipsticks equals a quarter of a quart. And adding an extra quarter of a quart, or even half a quart, won't hurt anything.
Tom: When you overfill the crankcase by a quart or more, then you risk "foaming" the oil. If the oil level gets high enough, the spinning crankshaft can whip the oil up into a froth, like the stuff that sits on top of your cappuccino. And the problem with that is that the oil pump can't pump froth.
Ray: It's like trying to drink from a straw when there's not much left in the glass -- what you get is mostly air. And air can't lubricate your engine.
Tom: Now, there are some cars that are more sensitive to overfilling than others. Volkswagens with four-cylinder engines come to mind. And if you had one of those, and the mechanic overfilled it by half a quart, I'd tell you to have him drain the oil and refill it more precisely. But unless your owner's manual specifically warns you -- in dire language -- not to overfill the oil, I wouldn't worry about it unless it's approaching a quart over.
Ray: And by the way, your dealership should be giving you free oil changes for life. If you led it to discover that it was giving away an extra quarter of a quart of oil with every oil change, think of all the money you're now saving the dealership on oil!
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Re: Oil Change - help please (shawnhayes)
Re-read my statement. I say 3 quarts not 1/2 quart You should always check your dipstick about once a week anyway. But the car will burn a little of oil.
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