Non-Vtec Head but has vtec how is this possible
09-26-2004, 08:43 PM
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Non-Vtec Head but has vtec how is this possible
One of my friends accually one of my mechanics has a b18a1 in his civic and hooked up a msd rpm activator to it. How is this possible if the b18a1 is non vtec. He claims that he gets an extra boost and it is like vtec.
09-26-2004, 09:02 PM
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Re: Non-Vtec Head but has vtec how is this possible (AIWFCIATR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AIWFCIATR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">One of my friends accually one of my mechanics has a b18a1 in his civic and hooked up a msd rpm activator to it. How is this possible if the b18a1 is non vtec. He claims that he gets an extra boost and it is like vtec. </TD></TR></TABLE>
What exactly is it activating that gives him extra power?
What exactly is it activating that gives him extra power?
09-26-2004, 09:08 PM
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Re: Non-Vtec Head but has vtec how is this possible (Archidictus)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Archidictus »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
What exactly is it activating that gives him extra power?</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's actuating his pee pee. Then he can be a commander of the dark vtec forces!
What exactly is it activating that gives him extra power?</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's actuating his pee pee. Then he can be a commander of the dark vtec forces!
09-26-2004, 09:16 PM
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Re: Non-Vtec Head but has vtec how is this possible (BauleyCivic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BauleyCivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
It's actuating his pee pee. Then he can be a commander of the dark vtec forces!</TD></TR></TABLE>
OMG I can't stop laughing
It's actuating his pee pee. Then he can be a commander of the dark vtec forces!</TD></TR></TABLE>
OMG I can't stop laughing
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09-26-2004, 09:18 PM
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Re: Non-Vtec Head but has vtec how is this possible (BauleyCivic)
Like i said I dont know... His brother has a sohc vtec and has a msd rpm activator. He unhooked his vtec and hooked the msd rpm activator up to the solenoid and it kicks his vtec in whenever he wants with different pills. But my mechanic has a LS with no vtec and has an extra boost at 5400
09-26-2004, 09:18 PM
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Re: Non-Vtec Head but has vtec how is this possible (DeMen7ed)
ya it has to activate something i am guessing nitrous because nothing else can just be majically turned on to give more power, other than a 2 stage boost controller. But i gotta agree with bauley he just has the force of vtech on his side and he is m4d tyt3
09-26-2004, 09:20 PM
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Re: Non-Vtec Head but has vtec how is this possible (BauleyCivic)
Wow you are the funniest guy I ever met. If you would read the rules of posting things you would see that if you dont have helpful input than dont say a word. Go post your lame jokes in another forum.
09-26-2004, 09:30 PM
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Re: Non-Vtec Head but has vtec how is this possible (Soccerking3000)
Unless you change the cams and cam timing, you will only lose power by changing the vtec actuation point. Your *** and your ego may tell you its more power, but the dyno doesn't lie.
VTEC is mechanical and just having an electronic switch w/out the hard parts obviously does nothing. Key words are "he claims he gets an extra boost". Maybe he's just ******* with you.
VTEC is mechanical and just having an electronic switch w/out the hard parts obviously does nothing. Key words are "he claims he gets an extra boost". Maybe he's just ******* with you.
09-26-2004, 09:32 PM
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Re: Non-Vtec Head but has vtec how is this possible (shaundrake)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shaundrake »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Unless you change the cams and cam timing, you will only lose power by changing the vtec actuation point. Your *** and your ego may tell you its more power, but the dyno doesn't lie.
VTEC is mechanical and just having an electronic switch w/out the hard parts obviously does nothing. Key words are "he claims he gets an extra boost". Maybe he's just ******* with you.</TD></TR></TABLE>
thank you for the response thanks for not being a dik like them other guys
VTEC is mechanical and just having an electronic switch w/out the hard parts obviously does nothing. Key words are "he claims he gets an extra boost". Maybe he's just ******* with you.</TD></TR></TABLE>
thank you for the response thanks for not being a dik like them other guys
09-26-2004, 09:33 PM
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Re: Non-Vtec Head but has vtec how is this possible (AIWFCIATR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AIWFCIATR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Like i said I dont know... His brother has a sohc vtec and has a msd rpm activator. He unhooked his vtec and hooked the msd rpm activator up to the solenoid and it kicks his vtec in whenever he wants with different pills. But my mechanic has a LS with no vtec and has an extra boost at 5400 </TD></TR></TABLE>
His brother has a homemade VTEC controller. Instead of allowing the ECU to initiate the crossover, the MSD switch does it for him, and he can crossover whenever he wants according to which pill he uses. We used to do the same thing in the old days, when swaps first started out, and no one was using factory ECU's, since the wiring hadn't been figured out yet. The power that his brother thinks he's getting is probably imaginary, as changing the crossover w/out fuel or timing adjustments is usually no help at all.
Your "mechanic" might be using a timing retard to help out, but if his motor is non-Vtec, he doesn't have VTEC, period.
His brother has a homemade VTEC controller. Instead of allowing the ECU to initiate the crossover, the MSD switch does it for him, and he can crossover whenever he wants according to which pill he uses. We used to do the same thing in the old days, when swaps first started out, and no one was using factory ECU's, since the wiring hadn't been figured out yet. The power that his brother thinks he's getting is probably imaginary, as changing the crossover w/out fuel or timing adjustments is usually no help at all.
Your "mechanic" might be using a timing retard to help out, but if his motor is non-Vtec, he doesn't have VTEC, period.
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Re: Non-Vtec Head but has vtec how is this possible (AIWFCIATR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AIWFCIATR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow you are the funniest guy I ever met. If you would read the rules of posting things you would see that if you dont have helpful input than dont say a word. Go post your lame jokes in another forum.</TD></TR></TABLE>
he has the power to do so n00b.
he has the power to do so n00b.
09-26-2004, 11:12 PM
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Tell your friend to engage vtec at 1000RPMS thats where honda meant for it to be crossed over, thats why when you buy it they have it crossover at 4800rpms.. uhh **** nevermind
Tell your friend to engage vtec at 1000RPMS thats where honda meant for it to be crossed over, thats why when you buy it they have it crossover at 4800rpms.. uhh **** nevermind
09-26-2004, 11:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AIWFCIATR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow you are the funniest guy I ever met. If you would read the rules of posting things you would see that if you dont have helpful input than dont say a word. Go post your lame jokes in another forum.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You dont know who your talking to do you? Did you see the name NEXT to the rules you so casually speak of? No, I didnt think so. no0bs these days
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BauleyCivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
It's actuating his pee pee. Then he can be a commander of the dark vtec forces!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Pee Pee V3T4K!!!!!
You dont know who your talking to do you? Did you see the name NEXT to the rules you so casually speak of? No, I didnt think so. no0bs these days
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BauleyCivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
It's actuating his pee pee. Then he can be a commander of the dark vtec forces!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Pee Pee V3T4K!!!!!
09-27-2004, 07:31 AM
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Re: (carbine)
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09-27-2004, 07:41 AM
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Re: (Jon V)
im guessing its him running his car patial throttle up to what rpm he has his pill to and then goes wide open.. perpatrating vtec 
we did it all the time with my friends freshly swaped b20.. cuz it was dirt slow.. till get actaully got a vtec head LOL
we did it all the time with my friends freshly swaped b20.. cuz it was dirt slow.. till get actaully got a vtec head LOL
09-27-2004, 08:24 AM
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