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Old 05-13-2005, 10:48 AM
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Hey guys,

I've spent the last hour reading the archived post and I can't determine which bearing is going bad in my transmission. So I'll describe the noise and hopefully you can help me out.

98 Civic EX Manual D16y8

Clutch Out (Engaged) - Noise, Chattering

Cluth In (Disengaged) - Noise goes away

Noise increases with RPM's with the clutch engaged (driving).

No noise when reving with clutch pushed in (disengaged).

I can shift all gears fine. So which bearing is it? Thanks!

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Default Re: Noise from Transmission - Throw Out Bearing or Pilot Bearing? (Sivik)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sivik &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey guys,

I've spent the last hour reading the archived post and I can't determine which bearing is going bad in my transmission. So I'll describe the noise and hopefully you can help me out.

98 Civic EX Manual D16y8

Clutch Out (Engaged) - Noise, Chattering

Cluth In (Disengaged) - Noise goes away

Noise increases with RPM's with the clutch engaged (driving).

No noise when reving with clutch pushed in (disengaged).

I can shift all gears fine. So which bearing is it? Thanks!

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happened to my friend, Was his throw out bearing.
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Default Re: Noise from Transmission - Throw Out Bearing or Pilot Bearing? (Sivik)

If it was the throw out bearing, you would only hear it when the clutch is in. Sounds like it's your throw out bearing. Mine made a kind of ratteling noise when it started going bad.
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to me is sounds like a bad input shaft bearing.
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lol... see i can't figure out which one it is.
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Default Re: Noise from Transmission - Throw Out Bearing or Pilot Bearing? (Sivik)

sounds to me like its your throw out bearing.. i had the same problem.. i changed my clutch and put in a new throw out bearing and the noise went away...
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i had a bad input shaft bearing in my last tranny, if it stops chattering when u push the clutch to the floor, then its a bad input shaft bearing, u can hear the bearing come to a stop...(stop spining) then take the clutch out, with the car in nuetral, and if u can still hear it, yep, bad input shaft.
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replace both if your going to replace one of them, same thing happened to me and i replaced both, no more sound
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Default Re: Noise from Transmission - Throw Out Bearing or Pilot Bearing? (Sivik)

i have excatly the same problem and i bought a new transmission for 300$ used....i figured if ur gonna change some parts in that thing and take it down, might as well change all, including the clutch right? so you wont have to take it down again 6 months from now...cuz i hear that tranny is a bitch to take down and put back
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Default Re: Noise from Transmission - Throw Out Bearing or Pilot Bearing? (Jay-Dee-Em)

I'll put a $1 on a f'ed ISB.

Happened to my Y7 - the mainshaft bearing was also beat. Flakes of the bearing were missing - sounded like the tranny was going to grenade itself.

$40 and a couple hours later, she's still going strong after 25k.
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How about just changing both while it's out? Might as well. Don't guess, put it all together again, and it happened to be the other. You'll look stupid at the end.
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I had the same thing -&gt; Input shaft bearing

While youre in there, you might as well replace all of them (both sides!); its not expensive
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by POE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">to me is sounds like a bad input shaft bearing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ding Ding Ding.......Bingo.

This happened to me when i had my Z6. It was the exact same symptoms you have just described. I have seen lots of SOHC trannys have bad input shaft bearing. I guess they are kind of notorious for this.
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on my old sohc, i had the same problem. i had the throwout and pilot bearing replace and the sound didn't go away just a little personal experience i thought i'd share.
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Change both bearings lol
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damn you guys... thanks for the responses... i guess i'll have to spend more money now.

so i should really replace all? throw-out, input shaft, and pilot?

i called my friend who's a honda-tech and he said its throw-out. what are some possible checks i can do to determine which one it is or if its all of them?


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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sivik &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">damn you guys... thanks for the responses... i guess i'll have to spend more money now.

so i should really replace all? throw-out, input shaft, and pilot?

i called my friend who's a honda-tech and he said its throw-out. what are some possible checks i can do to determine which one it is or if its all of them?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well first off when you remove the tranny inspect the throwout bearing and pilot bearing. Then see if the tranny shaft has play. If it has some play then its the input shaft bearing.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EG6 SiR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Well first off when you remove the tranny inspect the throwout bearing and pilot bearing. Then see if the tranny shaft has play. If it has some play then its the input shaft bearing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Do you mean when you turn it side to side? Up or down? In or out? I would really like to know.
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Default Re: Noise from Transmission - Throw Out Bearing or Pilot Bearing? (Sivik)

IMO, I would replace both while the tranny is out.
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How do you check for input bearing wear, other than actually taking it apart? Someone said to move the input shaft to check for free play. Do I just pull in and out, side to side, rotate the shaft back and forth? Can someone clear this up for me?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bond &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How do you check for input bearing wear, other than actually taking it apart? Someone said to move the input shaft to check for free play. Do I just pull in and out, side to side, rotate the shaft back and forth? Can someone clear this up for me?</TD></TR></TABLE>

i would like to know too
i just replaced my clutch and flywheel with new throw out bearing and Pilot Bearing
im pretty sure its my input shaft bearing but want to be 100% it is
it sounds just like my brothers crx si tranny with a bad ISB

i also read somewhere if it was the throw out bearing the sound should still happen if the clutch is in or out
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Its the ISB (input shaft bearing) TRUST ME

A dry or bad throw out bearing will consist of a noise that will come into effect with the clutch in pushed in.

I had this same problem on a previous car...and rest assured it was the ISB bearing..which sucks cause the labor is a pretty pricey on getting it done....

Good luck none the less...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MinorityGreg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its the ISB (input shaft bearing) TRUST ME

A dry or bad throw out bearing will consist of a noise that will come into effect with the clutch in pushed in.

I had this same problem on a previous car...and rest assured it was the ISB bearing..which sucks cause the labor is a pretty pricey on getting it done....

Good luck none the less... </TD></TR></TABLE>

im not too hurry about my
i got my motor off hmotors recently
i know steve will take care of my tranny since he kicks ***
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does anyone have part numbers for the throw-out and input shaft bearing?


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