whoDAT

i'm in the midst of swapping and have narrowed it down to two motors, the B18b or the B20z. i'd like to keep it N/A and without adding a vtec head, but first i would like to hear what your views, thoughts, and comments are on both engines. which one do you recommed and why? which one has more potential? which one responds better with modifications? how does their low/mid/high range compare to each other?

GapxGuy

I'm assuming you own a Del sol, better get the B20.

=GAME=

since u from cali, i say go with the b18b
too much hassle to go thru with the b20

ace1875

first make sure its a B20z and not a B20b. But if it turns out a b20b then get a B18b head on it.

GapxGuy

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LS and B20 heads are the same.

GapxGuy

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plenty of places you can find a b20 in oc its just much same hassle to find a b18b

if you need places i know of several in oc</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think he meant by getting it BAR certified.

=GAME=

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I think he meant by getting it BAR certified.</TD></TR></TABLE>

whoDAT

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by whoDAT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">which one do you recommed and why? which one has more potential? which one responds better with modifications? how does their low/mid/high range compare to each other?</TD></TR></TABLE>

??? anyone???

all stock

higher displacement usually responds better with simple modification. but you are in california, where the b20 can NOT be BAR certified. depends what you want. power or legality.

degooser

b18b..ls motor...just do that...both respond well to mods... only difference is one has more torque and one u can get ref'd in california..

unstopabledj

well i went with a b18b and i have no regrets about it, i dont know anyone around here who went with a b20 non vtec and of course N/A and has put down good times..but ive ran 13's with just some head work on a stock block and tranny so i think you can do the samething, just giving you a figure of what you can do with these non vtec motors..

jaysonx

I have a JDM B20 in my delsol w/ GSR tranny, and it pulls real real nice. The tranny really needs an LS 5th though, the GSR 5th is just too short for highway driving.

Myh4tch

Why are you against forced induction, or is it just not in the price range right now? because we all know that ls turbo is very fun same with b20 turbo

jazz215

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by O.G triple O.G &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">since u from cali, i say go with the b18b
too much hassle to go thru with the b20</TD></TR></TABLE>

Kangaroo_Boy

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tang.fung &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i got a question is swapping heads still considered NA?</TD></TR></TABLE>

na=naturally aspirated

as long as you dont have a turbo or supercharger or NNNNNAAAWWWZZZZ or any other means of FI you are NA, so yes, a new head is NA still

jlv55

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tang.fung &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i got a question is swapping heads still considered NA?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yea

whoDAT

hmmm, this is a toughy. still can't make up my mind. thanks for all the replies though

GapxGuy

Just go for the B20, who the hell gets bar certified anyway??

IWearMyKswiss

i have both motors,..one in each of my hatches,..and to tell the truth,..if i was going NA with one,..id pick the b20,..i love my b20 motor,..not saying i dont like my LS,..its just that my b20 has a bit more torque and pulls nicely,...14.9 in my b20 hatch all motor,..but im gonna boost her

93EH6

Why can't the b20 be BAR certified in cali

DenMatic

B20s are classified as truck motors. can't put a truck motor in a passenger car according to BAR

whoDAT

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DenMatic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B20s are classified as truck motors. can't put a truck motor in a passenger car according to BAR</TD></TR></TABLE>

if it wasn't for this, i would have already picked up the B20... .... on cali's state ref's and their dumb laws....boooo

93EH6

Well i think i am going to get one anyway cause most smog shops around here don't care

slammed_93_hatch

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93EH6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well i think i am going to get one anyway cause most smog shops around here don't care</TD></TR></TABLE>

hahahahhahahahahahahah they don't care, I think they car a 10,000 dollar fine, jail time, the shop gets shut down, and the rest of there life is ruined its serious ****.