DEEABLO

SO.... when i bought my daily beater some time ago, it came with no a/c or ps. immediately after i took posession, i took the car to my mechanic and fixed all the mechanical issues with the car. as I was driving home/testing the car, i noticed that the car did not pull as hard as it did when it had no power steering. can someone please explain this?

forcefedferio

eh, there is a slight draw and it will feel slightly more sluggish with P/S as opposed to sans P/S but not enough that it should be extremely noticeable. what all did you have done to the car at the shop, could be something wrong there.

batallic

1 hp faster maybe, since the crank pulley doesnt have to turn another belt, and the car will be a bit lighter

hmoobhero

well if you had a/c and p/s put back onto the motor than yeah it will feel alil slower. but depends what motor you have. on b series theres not that much different because they have more power, but if it was on a d series then yea i would think so. dump question...did you have your a/c on?

hushypushy

What else did your mechanic do? The PS does drain a tiny bit of power but not enough to noticeably affect the butt dyno. So it's probably something else. I'm not sure if he's an expert or a newb, but is there a possibility he might've bungled something, like set the timing a little off perhaps?

Padawan

I've seen dynos of between 4-7 whp gains from removing the power steering belt on a B-series. That's around a 4% improvement. The D-series should respond similarly.

DEEABLO

nope, I did not have a/c at the time. ac came later.

TheCivicMafia

If you think you lost power with just PS turn on ac lol.

EL Vap133

Not faster, just slightly lighter and less drag on the engine.

roadsqueegy95

lol i cant realy tell a diff with my ps, but when i turn on my ac i can feel it! haha wonderful torqueless wonder b16!

Ej Girl

Who needs p/s or ac anyways? :p I can get away with it since I live in md but I feel bad for those who live in the southern states. When I took that stuff off my civic when I had a d15 in it I felt a nice difference and a lil bit more gain so imo u don't need it.

Arthas

I love my power steering.. **** the 1 hp gain I can get by removing it.

wolf95

ya my buddy removed his and i was thinkin bout it but ill just keep it on and put my b16 in and call it a day. power steering is amazing when ur tired as hell

Pothole987

power steering is also good for parking lots. Ever drive an older truck like from the 50-60 range? wow talk about hassles trying to turn that SOB

vetkid89

soooooowooooop!!!!!....everone else said what i was gonna say so this is what you get...(good ?)

Pothole987

less strain car will seem to pull faster.
but screw that i like my luxury power steering.
want a faster car? get some nos

DIKIN-YA-ASS

Yea the weight of the p/s will make the car feel a little more heavier. less weight = more speed!!

Pothole987

Like 30 pounds? wow. better take off 2 of you lugnuts, remove the spare tire, exhaust intake to gain more power(dont actually it would be unsafe.)
a sub box and amp weighs like 25 pounds. wow. real savings there.

Matt93eg

I agree. Its nice but IMO no Civic,etc from 88-00 need P/S. I ditched my P/S a long time ago..its a bit more of a hassle in tight parking lots but damn grow some forearm mucsles.

I don't have A/C either..how much removing the P/S frees up HP I don't know. Removing it and the A/C will save some weight but shouldn't be that big of a deal. My engine bay is just alot cleaner without that **** in there plus a turbo will take up some of the room where the old A/C condensor used to sit

And with no A/C-P/S brackets..it just makes the bay and engine look that much cleaner.

iliv2xlr8

I did a write-up on converting power steering to manual. Just search my username.

I removed it in my hatch for a few reasons. The parasitic loss is minimal, the weight reduction is probably even less, but the feel is much better. Power steering removes the feel from the road during spirited drives. After the conversion, the car felt more nimble in my hands, and control was more immanent.

Not to mention that the car steers just as easily when converted correctly. Slightly harder when completely stopped, but nothing to complain about.

Power steering is for old ladies.....

Matt93eg

You know thats probably the most noticable thing I like..and I didn't even mention it..is the feel. You can feel the road alot better. The p/s seems to soak everything up. I know after I removed mine I drove for months without driving a p/s car. Then I jumped in my bros 08 Civic SI and it just felt way to responsive with p/s. It kinda "darts" in other words with very little input from the steering wheel.

iliv2xlr8

I'm with you. Much better for Auto-X events also.

Matt93eg

Yeah I can imagine.

My ex used to drive my car off and on when her damn 95 Camaro Z28 was broke down and she never bitched about not having p/s either.

iliv2xlr8

I have driven an EG with a manual rack and a EG with a power rack that had been converted. I prefer the power converted rack due to the higher steering ratio. The feel of the two were similar, but the steering was much quicker with the converted rack.

Probably the best mod I have done thus far... definitely the cheapest..LOL

iliv2xlr8

Here is my write-up for those who may be interested...

https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/steering-power-manual-conversion-2461681/