JDMlyfestyle

Just curious about using nitrous never used it b4 and have been against it for a while. But i was wondering what kind of gains would i expect from a 50 shot. what would i need to do to make it work(upgrade fuel pump. fuel pressure settings retard the timing ect)? and is there any way that i can hide all the solenoids so that no one would be able to see the hardlines? thanks

Discosteak

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as for gains you can expect about 50 hp from a 50 shot and i would upgrade your fuel pump every thing else usually comes with a kit (dry system)

CivicSiRracer69

for a 60hp shot and below there is no need for a fuel upgrade... Just new 2 degree colder plugs, and if you really wanna be safe retard the timign 1-2 degrees.

95cxhatch

yah ...like said b4 i think they're suppoed to deliver almost 50 whp and 50lbs/ft of torque .....IF it is at the proper temp (which is very important)..

i'm not sure of upgrades that are recomended since my vote is to stay the hell away for the ****!!!

blackeg

i think that some wet nitrous kits can put down a few xtra horses than they are rated for. to be safe- get colder sparkplugs, make sure ignition timing is not advanced, and remember the rule of 15 hp per cylendar so keep it to 60 shot or below on a small 4 cyl. some nitrous kits say that u can run them on stock fuel system, which if u do make sure that its up on routine maintanence and working properly. id say for like 50-60 shot the only fuel mod u might wanna do is raise the fuel pressure a little. now ive never used nitrous, but my kit is almost fully installed and ive picked up alot of info in the process. hopefully someone wiht more experience than me will chime in on this

1hotcivicSi

i juss put a 50 shot on my 00 si they put my timing at 12 degrees n put on a b&m fuel reg thats pretty much all u need for a 50 shot

JICB16B

i would upgrade the fuel pump and reg... just my .02

TwistedSI

Not to jack the thread but have been wanting to ask this for a while.

Will my b16a2 hold up with a 50 shot? I mean is the stock internals and such strong enough for the extra power? I've been contemplating doing a 50 shot in my SI but don't want to damage anything. Probably won't even use it much, just to give those Domestic guys on the highway something to think about next time they rev on a Honda.

KramE

Yes, your b16 motor can handle 50 shot nitrous with stock internals. I probably wouldn't go any higher though.

nitrouspete

50 shot? lol you guys are *****'s.. my friend ran a 100 shot all the time on his stock d16 ran a 150 shot once and its still holding

redcivicgsr

never had nitrous...don't think i ever will

sweetcarz02

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u know what, everyone has a ******* friend that "ran" 100shot or bigger on a D-series. I call BS! I am so tired of hearing this, especially since I have blown 2 D-series motors spraying a 60 and 80 shot. I wanna see some proof of a D-series motor holding up to a 100 shot or 150 shot, please. I might buy it with some of the other motors produced by Honda but come on, doubling the power output of the motor on a stock D16 and it not blowing. Please


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TwistedSI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not to jack the thread but have been wanting to ask this for a while.

Will my b16a2 hold up with a 50 shot? I mean is the stock internals and such strong enough for the extra power? I've been contemplating doing a 50 shot in my SI but don't want to damage anything. Probably won't even use it much, just to give those Domestic guys on the highway something to think about next time they rev on a Honda.</TD></TR></TABLE>

and twistedSi, a 50shot is a nice investment man, yes as long as you generally aren't a dumbass, run colder plugs, I used the (NGK BKR7E-11) but that was my pref., you can find out alot of good plugs to go with by using search here, or u can just goto Autozone and ask for 1 level colder or 2 level colder, hopefully they know what u are talking about. PM me with any questions u have, I will be glad to help u out to the best of my ability.

ARIZONA

On stock internals, I personally have run a z6 with a 75 shot numerous times at the track and even more bottles through a 50 shot set-up for 'street' use.

Not to mention, on the 50 shot, I was Advanced 1 degree (The leaner the meaner), which is not smart but it was fast...

The people who are blowing their motors on stock internals with a 50 shot have bad set-ups, or had an issue with their motors before the kit or shortly there after... I ran enough bottle to say that with confidence...

The biggest suggestion I can make to have a semi-healthy running, quick bottled D16 is to upgrade to a 215lph intank (255 is way overkill), Cold plugs, fuel rail for wet systems, Fuel pressure Reg, Bottle heater (almost always necessary), and FOR SURE some sort of N20 bottle pressure gauge...

Proper installation ofcourse.

I ran VERY consistant 14.2 @96.6 in a stock+ weight 94 Del Sol Si on a 75 shot with basic bolt ons + the zex street cam.

When I swapped out motors, the bottle motor had 100k on it and still ran with very little blowby on the rings (there was some though I admit)

Any questions, feel free to IM me....

ARIZONA

Forgot to mention that the consistant time was ran 2 degrees retarded open header..

nitrouspete

i will seriously try and get a video of one of his 100 shot passes its a dry zex kit.. ill see if i can get ahold of a video camera today if we can.. im not trying to bullshit anyone here i have just seen it done with ease so many times that i get on here and see guys blowing up on 50 shots and im wondering whats going on

ARIZONA

I have got to question a 100 shot DRY on a D16 ran with EASE..... sorry, but not happening with ease... must be a new motor, and trust me, it won't last long.

nitrouspete

its is relativly new and he has a big fuel pump, dont remember what it is. but call all the BS you want cause it doesnt matter, the fact is he did run a 100 through about 10 bottles and sprayed a 150 at the track. but whatever, ill try and get some video of it soon!

second edition

the owner of one of the shops in my town has been running a 100 shot dry on his b16 in a 88 civic for a few years now.thats with all new fuel system . although he has blown up 3 of them. ,but he doesnt care.

viprcr1

so which is better a DRY kit or a WET kit.

sillvercivicgsr

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by viprcr1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so which is better a DRY kit or a WET kit.</TD></TR></TABLE>

a dry kit is better (safer) than wet according to test that have been done. i used to have a 65 shot on a d16 with stock internals, timing retarded 2 degrees ran it like that for about 6 months before getting rid of the car and never had a problem with it. I'm about to put a 75-100 shot on my hatch with a built b18c1.