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Old 06-28-2010, 06:30 PM
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I got a new ek 1996 d16y8 vtec obd2

Is there any headers/exhaust system for car that wont put my check engine light on? sense it is obd2.. one o2 sensor in stock header another in back of cat.. i know about changing over to obd1 but it is very costly and time consuming =\ anyone have any suggestions??

I'm looking to put a bigger throttle body on it any suggestions on what size? I want to go all motor build. Whats the best bolt on from a b series? h? idk. thats why I'm askin..? and anyone got one for sale =p

So far I have AEM fuel rail, bigger injectors, AEM intake and STOCK full exhaust system! producing not enough power D=

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also this might be debatable I've been putting fully synthetic(MobileOne high mileage) when I took to my buddies shop he said I should run fully synthetic in my civic... I'm wondering why? he said it doesn't properly lubricate everything, comments on that? suggestions? thanks again^^

dont be scared to bump a n00bie now =]
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...I personally would not run FS oil, but since you're doing it now, you're basically stuck because it's hard for your motor to accept conventional after that. Unless boosted, a larger TB, FR, and FI's are uneeded and is just wasted money really. Why throw extra fuel into cylinders that were stock perfect where they were? And adding a larger hole on a TB but keeping the Manifold the same really does nothing, just pulls money from your pocket. An exhaust system though could be a good idea.
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...I personally would not run FS oil, but since you're doing it now, you're basically stuck because it's hard for your motor to accept conventional after that. Unless boosted, a larger TB, FR, and FI's are uneeded and is just wasted money really. Why throw extra fuel into cylinders that were stock perfect where they were? And adding a larger hole on a TB but keeping the Manifold the same really does nothing, just pulls money from your pocket. An exhaust system though could be a good idea.
yeah but i can't find an exhaust that will work with my OBD2 d16y8, i have high flow cat right now and it already throws the o2 code that means NO vtec D= am i stuck until i get obd1 or is there something i can do or someone that makes obd2 headers/exhaust
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ya bigger injectors is very very unneeded. the only reason you ever put bigger injectors is because with a turbo kit ur throwing so much air the stock injectors cant keep p and throw enough fuel to make the propper air fuel ratio. thats what there for. dont go d series N/A you wont make much power easily. the best thing to do is build the bottom end and boost it. you can peice together ur own turbo kit if u just do some research u can make some good decent power with a turbo kit and a good tune for the same price as swapping a gsr or something. go boost im telling you...nothing beats boost
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Originally Posted by otek // ek.dipn
yeah but i can't find an exhaust that will work with my OBD2 d16y8, i have high flow cat right now and it already throws the o2 code that means NO vtec D= am i stuck until i get obd1 or is there something i can do or someone that makes obd2 headers/exhaust
i've read that people have had pretty good luck with these extender dealies. basically it pulls the o2 far enough away from the exhaust stream so that it reads a lesser amount of hydrocarbons.



i would however recommend converting to obd1, specially if you ever want to tune it and make any power from it. you should be able to get an obd1 p28 and ecu jumper for about $150 or less easy.
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ya that extender works my buddy used one on his s2k when we put his exhaust on
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You can go from synthetic oil to conventional oil without problems. The idea that you can't is an old wive's tale.
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i've read that people have had pretty good luck with these extender dealies. basically it pulls the o2 far enough away from the exhaust stream so that it reads a lesser amount of hydrocarbons.



i would however recommend converting to obd1, specially if you ever want to tune it and make any power from it. you should be able to get an obd1 p28 and ecu jumper for about $150 or less easy.
I believe its a heat sensing o2 sensor in my cat on this car. but imma give it a try anyone else thats having this problem heres where you can buy one of these..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/O2-Se...Q5fAccessories

im getting mine off ebay =p 12$ aint to bad hope it works. a friend suggested welding another bolt on top of another on the cat but this seems a bit easier and no modification is required.

im still looking for headers for my y8 obd2 they dont make em or what? i really dont wanna go turbo because the cops crush cars where im from D;
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i would however recommend converting to obd1, specially if you ever want to tune it and make any power from it. you should be able to get an obd1 p28 and ecu jumper for about $150 or less easy.
where can i get that for 150$ or less? because im lookin if anyone's selling. i would also need the distributor also correct? i can get my ecu tuned but i need all the parts, witch include? ecu, distributor, obd1 jumper harness and what else?

check it out. i got money if someone has parts. im fresh into the scene but imma tear it up!
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If you can't find a header with an O2 sensor bung then you can just have one added. IIRC most headers have the O2 bung near the bottom, which means you have to extend the wires on your O2 sensor.
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Originally Posted by otek // ek.dipn
where can i get that for 150$ or less? because im lookin if anyone's selling. i would also need the distributor also correct? i can get my ecu tuned but i need all the parts, witch include? ecu, distributor, obd1 jumper harness and what else?
i bought my ecu jumper from eBay for $40 shipped and then i got a virgin p28 for $100 off a guy on craigslist. could of had one for $60 but didn't feel like driving an hour to get it. deals are out there, just have to find them.

you do not need the obd1 dizzy since obd2 dizzy's are identical internally.
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For the ECU swap, all you need is the jumper and a p28 ECU. A jumper new is ~$75 and you can buy a new p28 with your own specific rev limits, removed speed limiter and vtec engagement for like ~$250. - That's a real good deal.
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yeah but i can't find an exhaust that will work with my OBD2 d16y8, i have high flow cat right now and it already throws the o2 code that means NO vtec D= am i stuck until i get obd1 or is there something i can do or someone that makes obd2 headers/exhaust
I went with a 2 1/4 Greddy Catback and the only Exhuast CEL I've gotten is low threshold on my Cat, which means it's nearing the end of it's road and it's not converting as much as it should. So never really a CEL persay, just a maintenance check given by the CEL itself.
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well im back the bolt didn't work D= it extended it so far my o2 sensor was in the way of my shift linkage =\ anyways i'm now just going for the obd1 conversion ebay also is sellin some obd1 conversion harnesses for like 40$ shipped.. go for the 95 and down civics obd2 keeps costin me money lol
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**********added the o2 extender was too long i just ordered a shorter one.. im sure it will work this time!
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Originally Posted by SpecialBrownie
...I personally would not run FS oil, but since you're doing it now, you're basically stuck because it's hard for your motor to accept conventional after that.
That's great YOU wouldn't but don't be pushing your misguided opinion onto other people without having facts to support it. There is absolutely no issue with him switching back and forth from conventional and synthetic, please don't perpetuate erroneous information.

Originally Posted by D16SiHatch
you do not need the obd1 dizzy since obd2 dizzy's are identical internally.
Right, it's just the wiring plug that's different.
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Originally Posted by Kidnkorner
Right, it's just the wiring plug that's different.
can someone post a pic of the plug i need? imma snag one from pick-a-part. i got alot more parts sense i've posted this, and yes im now going turbo-d =}}

still need p28 and tune thats it. thinking of saving a little more and going with aem ems
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