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Old 05-06-2009, 08:17 AM
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Hello,
I have a 93' civic with a manual tranny. I was screwing around in some sand. The clutch started smoking then the car just stopped moving.
I can move the shifter through the gears with or without pressing the clutch. No grinding or anything. Any idea whats broken or how I could learn more about the problem?

Thanks,
Jason
Old 05-06-2009, 08:56 AM
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pull the tranny out.. that's the first thing i would do and look for broken parts.
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Thank you for the reply. I'm not a very experienced mechanic. Are there any other ways to identify the problem before pulling the tranny?

Thanks,
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turn the car on and see if you can shift between all gears. is so put it in first and see if i will move if not then clutch might be burnt. look under the car see if shiftlikage is not hainging down pump the clutch with the car off and have a friend see if the slave cylinder is moving the clutch fork side to side. let me know what u find.
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Awesome! Tomorrow at 4pm a buddy is going to come over and look with me. I'll let ya'll know what we find.

Thanks,
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Ok, So the clutch was toast. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xHxQ19rH5I

Got a new clutch kit and flywheel. Got it mostly on. 2 bolts that hold the pressure plate to the flywheel sheered the head off at less than 20ft lbs.
So Im going to try to get all new pressure plate to flywheel bolts. Think I can get those from the dealership?

Ever seen a clutch turn to a pile of fiber like that? What makes it fail in that manner?

Thanks,
Jason
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yes, i have seen this plenty of times. the clutch is just a pile of **** like that. its usually a bad or defective clutch or someone that dont know how to drive the 5spd and they ride the clutch.
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Yeah, the dealership should have pressure plate to flywheel bolts. And that motor mount you can fill it up with polyurethane to make it more stable (don't overfill it though or there will be a lot of vibration in the steering wheel, dash, and all over the car).
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Travis, Hmm well I got the car used, but I do drive like a moron :D

civic_driver, Thanks, so that motor mount looked to be in poor shape to you?


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Howdy,
So I orderd 6 new bolts that hold the pressure plate to the flywheel from the dealership.
All they could tell me about the bolts is they are 8mm - 12 point. However, the ones I pulled out are 10mm - 12 point. Should this worry me? I'm just concered about time.

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96' Honda Civic - non vtec
The Bolts I pulled Out: 10mm - 12 point - 10(8-1.25)

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Jason
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Hello,
So my bolts came in. Got the clutch and tranny in place. I'm having a problem with the half shafts though. I got them almost all the way in. I have a small gap though where the half shaft meets the tranny. On one side it about 1/8" on the other about 1/4". Is this gap too big? Might my car seat itself a bit more when I drive? If no, how can I get rid of the gaps?

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bump - please advise :D

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OK, been a week and a half without my car. Can someone PLEASE tell me what is an acceptable gap between the end of the half shafts and the transmission? Im worried about getting grime into the transmission.

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Jason
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cool, this forum was a big help...
Hope the gap is ok. Cause the **** is together and running.
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when you put the axles back in, did the snap??? The axles have a ring on the end that fits into a groove in the xmission, if it didnt snap in then it doesnt matter about the gap.
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Thanks for the reply thi3v3z. Im pretty sure they snaped in and made it past the little clippy thing. So crud wont get in my tranny through the 1/8"-1/4" gap?

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no, theres seals around the shaft, and also that clip is in there very tight ,nothing will get by it. And youd know if they snapped in or not, cuz they are not easy, it takes alot of force to get them to snap in. Thats the worst part of puttin a xmission back in. Hopes this helps
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Cool, thanks a lot man. I feel good about the whole thing.

Thanks A Bunch,
dib
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Default Re: Need help troubleshooting clutch/tranny

Originally Posted by mohadib
Hello,
I have a 93' civic with a manual tranny. I was screwing around in some sand. The clutch started smoking then the car just stopped moving.
I can move the shifter through the gears with or without pressing the clutch. No grinding or anything. Any idea whats broken or how I could learn more about the problem?

Thanks,
Jason

you may have stripped the axles or spline inside the trans.
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Originally Posted by rareSpirits
you may have stripped the axles or spline inside the trans.
Did you by chance read any of the rest of this thread :D Or watch the video :D The car is running now. Thanks all for the help.

dib
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