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Old 08-09-2010, 06:00 PM
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my 00 hatch with y7/y8 mini-me was working fine. Now it wont start. No cel's. The fuel pump wont come on, no spark, injectors are dead. I checked all fuses, replaced the main relay tried 3 different computers . I was able to get it running once by jumping the fuel pump. Which the fuel pump will work when I do this. But the car now doesnt run.

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I also ohm and voltage checked the wires going to the main relay and checked the main relay.
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Clean and tighten the G101 ground wire attached to the thermostat housing.

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Originally Posted by RonJ@HT
Clean and tighten the G101 ground wire attached to the thermostat housing.
I gave that a try no go
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Do these electrical tests with a digital multimeter when the fuel pump won't prime:



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Did all that last night everything checked good
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Whats odd is the injectors arn't firing and there is no spark also
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Did all that last night everything checked good
You did ALL the tests in the diagrams and then swapped in a known good ECU?

What were the voltage and Ohm readings?
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Originally Posted by RonJ@HT
You did ALL the tests in the diagrams and then swapped in a known good ECU?

What were the voltage and Ohm readings?
Yeh I did. Around 11.5-12.2 volts. and .2 -.5 ohms. Im at a loss
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Is it possible that the whole under dash fuse panel took a crap?
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In the very last step, was the voltage reading between A16 and B2 1.0V or less? What was the reading?
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In the very last step, was the voltage reading between A16 and B2 1.0V or less? What was the reading?
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ok i re-did the test .20-.35 volts
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Originally Posted by Eaglekper0046
ok i re-did the test .20-.35 volts
Test the main relay.
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Originally Posted by RonJ@HT
Test the main relay.
I did. Both the old and new checked good
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When you turn the key to ON(II), does the CEL remain on steady both with and without the service connector jumped?
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Yes
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Do these additional tests:

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Ok Ill give it a shot. Thanks for you help
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Everything checked good. Im a bit un sure about the step that says to check for 5 volts. Both reading I got 4.97 which is close enough I guess.
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Originally Posted by Eaglekper0046
Everything checked good. Im a bit un sure about the step that says to check for 5 volts. Both reading I got 4.97 which is close enough I guess.
There are two tests that can yield 5V. Which one?
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Originally Posted by Eaglekper0046
...no spark...

...I was able to get it running once by jumping the fuel pump.
This says that you had spark but no fuel at one time. Have you recently checked for spark? If so, how? Are you now unable to start the engine with starter fluid?
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I suspect that some tests were not done or interpreted correctly, so you need to give details about how you are doing the tests and what readings you are getting.

First verify that the engine won't start. Then repeat all tests. Post the readings at each step and, where there are branch points, indicate which branch was taken.
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Originally Posted by RonJ@HT
This says that you had spark but no fuel at one time. Have you recently checked for spark? If so, how? Are you now unable to start the engine with starter fluid?
I did yesterday But ill check for spark again. Havent tried with starter fluid ill do that to.
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No spark


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