My1stTeg93

Hello all i could use some assistance in the issue im am having...
first off let me thank you in advance. Thanks to this Forum i have solved a few problems with the information i find on here but this one has me stumped.
i have searched for a couple days but dont find anything pertaining to this kind of issue. if its here and i missed it im sorry but i really did do alot of searching and reading.

I picked up a pretty decent looking 96 ej dx 4 door shell for $300 it was an automatic but came with no motor or trans. Being im fairly new to working on hondas i believed all d series engine and trannys were interchangeable so i got a good deal on a eg 1.5 motor and tranny automatic for $250
the ek had b series conversion mounts but in the trunk were the original d series mounts so i installed those and dropped in engine and tranny with the help of my nephew.. after reading alot on here i got it to start. turns out theres an alternator fuse that if blown/missing will not give fuel and spark (who knew) but the issue i am having is the transmission mounting.. it dont sit right.. the tranny is sitting extremely low low enough that when looking at the engine from the front u can clearly see it sloping to the left. my nephew said the holes dont line up and after having him try to explain to me what he did im even more confused lol..
i believe we are using the ek tranny mount but like i said bolt holes to tranny are off. so how can i fix this issue? what mounts or brackets should i be using? i want it to sit correctly and not look like the hack job it looks like now. Please any help would be apprecited

Former User

What engine and transmission?


FYI - Putting an older engine into a newer chassis won't pass emission/inspection tests in some states.

My1stTeg93

the engine is a d15 that all i know about it except the its from the i guess canadian model cx cuz of the tiny throttle body opening. the tranny is from a 92 eg hatch 1.5 also

and im in florida we do not have emissions here

tony_2018

Pics of the passenger mount.

My1stTeg93

the car is at his house i have to go there so i will take pics and post when i get back home.. but i know its the ek auto tranny mount

tony_2018

Its probably not the passenger side mount that is the issue, it could be the driver side mount.

My1stTeg93

i dont think so since the motor sits fine its the pass side aka the tranny mount that dont match the tranny

Former User

Post pics:
https://honda-tech.com/honda-civic-d.../#post48684945

...and the transmission code as well.


Also post pics of all mounts.

TomCat39

By the sounds, you don't have the manual transmission mounts.

From what you have said, you had b series mounts and the automatic d series mounts.

The mounts are different between the automatic and the manual for the d-series.

You need to get the manual mounts.

I'm trying to remember if there is any difference on the chassis between the two....

NotARaCist

iTrader: (1)

TomCat, he's using an Autotragic swap, so I'm not sure what makes you say that standard transmission mounts would solve his problem. Mounts aside, given the stock wiring harness, you're going to play absolute hell getting the correct ECU to make that car run right. Why are there so many autotragic failthreads popping up?

tony_2018

Post pics

TomCat39

Brain not working, thanks for the correction. I assumed the chassis mounting points stayed the same between manual and auto, but now thinking about how one is two bolt and one is three bolt, that probably isn't a good assumption. So anyways, I had figured the problem was with the transmission mounts themselves.

This has me curious and I'm going to have to take a closer look at all the mounts between my two cars (one auto, one manual).

I would think any of the swap DIY threads would be fruitful for this issue.

tony_2018

Its the same, just different bracket. I think I know why its at an angle but I'm waiting for a picture.

My1stTeg93

thanks guys for all the replies I actually solved it the day after I posted I just haven't had a chance to update when I get out of work today I will go take pictures of what I did and posted with the pictures I took prior to solving it and give a play by playin case someone else one day needs to do this Auto tragic swap



ok here are the pics

My1stTeg93

HERE

tony_2018

Yeah, thats what I figured was the issue.

Also that so called integra bracket that you claim the person who installed used, thats actually part of the civic auto tranny as well so its not a integra specific part.

My1stTeg93

ty for that lil tid bit of info tony i did not know that. i only jus saw it on my niece's teg and since my nephew mainly deals with tegs i assumed thats what it was from..

tony_2018

And just out of curiosity, what ecu are you running?

My1stTeg93

right now the stock obd 2 ecu but it will be getting a step down harness and probably end up with a p06 or p28

My1stTeg93

when the hell did the title change to ej vs ek?

NotARaCist

iTrader: (1)

Either you did it, or a mod did it, and if a mod did it...I want to know who I need to slap around

When you try to drive that car, you're going to run into a HUGE problem. The TCU is integrated into the ECU. That means that with an automatic transmission, you have to match the ECU to the transmission, which means you also have to match the engine, as well as all of the sensors. You're going to play hell getting everything to play nice together.

My1stTeg93

yea thats y we are going to put the eg ecu in it cuz of the sensors

and can someone fix the title? i have tried but it stays on ej

tony_2018

I'm sure he's using the obd2a engine harness. But I"m curious if he has any check engine lights and what are they for.

OP please with the codes that are showing.

TomCat39

A user can't change the title after creation only a mod. Learned this when I wanted to edit a title in one of the sub forums I have no mod status in. I had to put in a request to the mods of that sub forum.

TomCat39

That won't do you much good as they won't run the motor properly. Both the P06 and the P28 are expecting a lot more CFM through the head with 16 valve instead of the 12 valve you have.

The D15B8 wants a P05 ecu.

I know the D16Z6 (P28 ECU) auto tranny was geared differently than the D15B7 (P06 ECU) auto tranny so shift points are rough using the wrong ecu, I don't know if it is different again with the D15B8 (P05 ECU) auto tranny.

If you are in the states, finding salvage yard 92-95 "CX" cars shouldn't be that difficult and you can likely find an automatic P05 ecu to step down properly to.