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Old 07-06-2011, 06:04 AM
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New guy here and as the user name implies I have bad luck when it comes to working on cars. Here is my issue that I hope one or more of you can help me figure out. The other day the car overheated on me and I diagnosed that as a cracked heater hose. Easy fix right? Got a new hose and the only way to get the old one off was to remove the distributor. Got the hose swapped out, re-filled the coolant, put the dizzy back on and the car turns over but wouldn't start. Pulled the dizzy back off and turned the end 180 degrees, re-installed, and the car fired right up and purred like a kitten. I jump in to take a test drive to make sure all is well and the car has absolutely no power...very sluggish. I'm thinking great, my timing is probably off pretty good so I'll track down a timing light and check it in a few days. So the car sits about 3 days and I jump back in to make sure it still starts and nothing happens. When I turn the key the dash lights, radio, etc. work as normal so I don't suspect a battery problem, but the engine bay is silent...no clicks or nothing. I haven't had time to fool with it since but plan on digging into it this afternoon. How do I even begin to diagnose what my problem or problems may be?
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Have the battery tested.
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There were no indications that the problem had anything to do with the battery but I will test it first thing when I get home. Any other suggestions?
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So the car sits about 3 days and I jump back in to make sure it still starts and nothing happens. When I turn the key the dash lights, radio, etc. work as normal so I don't suspect a battery problem, but the engine bay is silent...no clicks or nothing.
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There were no indications that the problem had anything to do with the battery but I will test it first thing when I get home.
The starter motor requires much more battery power than do the dash lights and radio.
Old 07-06-2011, 11:20 AM
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You don't know how much I hope you're right!

Why do you think the car had no power before the no start issue? Is my assumption about the timing being off probably right?
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Why do you think the car had no power before the no start issue? Is my assumption about the timing being off probably right?
That's where I would start.
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when you put the distributor on and said it was sluggish maybe you need to turn the distributor forwards a little bit my b7 did the same thing push the gas and it would hardly move i adjusted it and there is no hesitation what so ever
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when you put the distributor on and said it was sluggish maybe you need to turn the distributor forwards a little bit my b7 did the same thing push the gas and it would hardly move i adjusted it and there is no hesitation what so ever
Thanks, I'll try that when I get it started again.

Would it do me any good to pull the distributor back off and set the no. 1 piston to TDC before I put it back on? If so, what is the easiest way to do this?
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Battery measured 12.9 volts.
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Do the starter motor and solenoid wires have battery voltage when the key is in ON(III) and the clutch pedal is down?

Is the transmission ground wire clean and tight?
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I have to find my meter and try to get my wife to assist me tomorrow if possible. I also have to figure out where those are located and how to check them. I have to admit I've never had to troubleshoot electrical problems before and I appreciate your help so far.
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Clean the battery terminals first.
I had a problem similar to this a few weeks back. *3 week old battery* put in by a young kid at sears - on a buddys car.
Dash lights all would work- nothing else- no start/no crank.

Figured it had to be the battery- I used my booster box to get him up and run. Tried to jump the car- still nothing would happen. Tested the battery- got all good readings.

Pulled off the positive terminal.....cleaned it up----- fired right up. Dunno why the kid installing the battery didnt clean it, but that was the issue.

Dont rule out the battery just yet....clean up your terminals/grounds.....then move on if that doesnt do it
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First, when you test a battery, you test CCA, not Voltage. It needs Amps to turn the starter and lots of them. Just because a battery shows 12.9 volts doesn't mean it's good.

Then like everybody else said, check connections, then check timing.
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Ok, you all have convinced me to get the battery tested further. I'll pull it out this afternoon and take it to get it tested.
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Going to get the battery tested today but from another thread on here I should probably look at my clutch switches if it tests good. I never really thought about how many different things have to take place for a car to start!
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Yeah, that would be a good place to check too. You did'nt mention a manual trans, so I didn't think of the Neutral safety switch.
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Next time I will mention that it is a manual trans because that was my problem!!! It was a major pain in the rear but I managed to glue a penny in there.

My timing is still off so that is my next issue. Should I be able to see the timing marks on the crank pulley with the belt still on or does the belt have to come off?
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Should I be able to see the timing marks on the crank pulley with the belt still on...?
yes
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Ok so I now know where the timing marks should be but I haven't been able to actually see them. I'm hoping they will show up with the timing light but I won't be too surprised if they don't. If they don't, does anybody have suggestions on how I should proceed?

A Big THANK YOU again to everyone's help so far!
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