Myth/Rumors... whats yours?... Need your input HT
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Myth/Rumors... whats yours?... Need your input HT
Hello HT, making a master list of common myhts for a future thread.
If you can think of Any please post.
I have a list rapidly populating, things like
Rotors Blanks or Slotted
H series Weight
Light Flywheels and TQ
Cams from Auto and Manual motors
Hard hitting VTEC
Seafoam
Mixing Synthetic with Conventional
VAFC's
Get my Drift?
If you can think of any please lmk, thanks
If you can think of Any please post.
I have a list rapidly populating, things like
Rotors Blanks or Slotted
H series Weight
Light Flywheels and TQ
Cams from Auto and Manual motors
Hard hitting VTEC
Seafoam
Mixing Synthetic with Conventional
VAFC's
Get my Drift?
If you can think of any please lmk, thanks
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Focus on the subject and keep the flaming out of this. I think the OP intended for this to be misguided modifications.
Here is one: a lighter flywheel increases your WHP. Although that appears to be true, the increase simply results from decreased drivetrain inertia, which looks like greater WHP on an accelerating dyno. Lighter wheels and tires would have the same effect.
Here is one: a lighter flywheel increases your WHP. Although that appears to be true, the increase simply results from decreased drivetrain inertia, which looks like greater WHP on an accelerating dyno. Lighter wheels and tires would have the same effect.
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not toally sure but i do believe that the auto b16 cams are milder than the 5 speed ones, i ordered a b16 longblock about 4 years ago from hmotors and they sent me an auto, so i swapped out the cams for 5 speed ones.
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One of the biggest ones I can think of?
Oil leaking from B series engines and collecting at the corner of the cylinder head, cylinder block, and top of the transmission case being diagnosed as a head gasket oil leak when in fact the HG doesn't leak oil. It is always either the VTEC valve gasket(s), distributor/o-ring, or the cam plug leaking oil, NOT the damn head gasket!!!
Also another myth is swapping a SOHC VTEC solenoid for a DOHC one to get "better" VTEC when both parts are identical!
There are really far too many to think of. I'm not sure why this is specifically 92-00 Civic specific, but I'll play along for a while.
Oil leaking from B series engines and collecting at the corner of the cylinder head, cylinder block, and top of the transmission case being diagnosed as a head gasket oil leak when in fact the HG doesn't leak oil. It is always either the VTEC valve gasket(s), distributor/o-ring, or the cam plug leaking oil, NOT the damn head gasket!!!
Also another myth is swapping a SOHC VTEC solenoid for a DOHC one to get "better" VTEC when both parts are identical!
There are really far too many to think of. I'm not sure why this is specifically 92-00 Civic specific, but I'll play along for a while.
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Mixing conventional and synthetic oils?
If I do re-call that is called semi-synthetic, or synthetic blend oil, obviously 50% conventional molecules, and 50% synthetic molecules. Many different oil companies make it, and many different people use them.
If I do re-call that is called semi-synthetic, or synthetic blend oil, obviously 50% conventional molecules, and 50% synthetic molecules. Many different oil companies make it, and many different people use them.
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If you look at the part numbers for the cams from auto and manual you will see they have the same part number. i have not checked all the cams and cars but will do so over time.
Yea b18c5-eh2 that headgasket one is great, i see and hear that many times.
thanks for cleaning thread moderators
Yea b18c5-eh2 that headgasket one is great, i see and hear that many times.
thanks for cleaning thread moderators
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Just out of curiousity, where are you finding part numbers for automatic B16A cams? Automatic B16As didn't exist in north america so part numbers aren't all that easy to find.
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Drilled AND/OR Slotted rotors are junk. I have them on my 99 Si and hate them. They warp so fast its not even funny. I didn't notice any performance gain only an annoying wobble when I try to stop. They are Brembo rotors BTW.
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yes, with current pads being ceramic, with the heat disapation, blanks are best. but after i get a large list i will remake this post explaining further.
Awhile ago syndacate and I found the part numbers and did a bit a research and found the part number to all be the exact same for the cams. ill ask him where we found that info. think hes in class right now, but im sure he will chime in soon.
Awhile ago syndacate and I found the part numbers and did a bit a research and found the part number to all be the exact same for the cams. ill ask him where we found that info. think hes in class right now, but im sure he will chime in soon.
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Especially once they get nice and warm.
What about the myth about vtec controlers and whether they work or not?
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they work sure, but the idea of changing it kinda reflects to hard hitting vtec. people will get the controller to move vtec so it hits harder, which is not why you use the controller.
vtec is ment to carry the tq curve, spikes and jumps cause a hard crossover, which is not waht you want. again, ill elaborate more later.
thanks for you inputs
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I added EBC Green pads afterward and that made a really big difference. My rotors took no time to warp though. What rotors do you have and did they warp at all?
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they work sure, but the idea of changing it kinda reflects to hard hitting vtec. people will get the controller to move vtec so it hits harder, which is not why you use the controller.
vtec is ment to carry the tq curve, spikes and jumps cause a hard crossover, which is not waht you want. again, ill elaborate more later.
thanks for you inputs
vtec is ment to carry the tq curve, spikes and jumps cause a hard crossover, which is not waht you want. again, ill elaborate more later.
thanks for you inputs
you sir are correct...but you knew that already...i have a VAFC2 on my 92 GS-R and if i have the crossover set too high then it does feel like the VTEC hits hard...when i had it on the dyno for the first time getting somewhat tuned. the car had gained 35HP in 100 rpm thats a big jump on a naturally aspirated car. so we lowered the VTEC crossover to where the curve would be nice and even and you can barely feel it engage now. which is alot better on your valvetrain and what you ultimately want.
oh the 92 Gs-R has the following mods.
OG B17A with 137xxx miles.
CTR cams and valve springs and retainers
Skunk2 pro series cam gears
AEBS intake manifold
JG Throttlebody
Intake
Dc Sports header
Greddy exhaust
HF cat
Fidanza 7.5lb flywheel
Exedy clutch
B&M short shifter
VAFC2
netted 159.2 to the wheels. not the greatest i know...but oh well..haha.
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A good one would be:
Is camber itself a direct tire wearing angle? If you have perfect toe and caster measurements but -3 degrees camber, some say it should not wear the inside of your tires and that it is a combination of toe and camber that causes wear.
Is camber itself a direct tire wearing angle? If you have perfect toe and caster measurements but -3 degrees camber, some say it should not wear the inside of your tires and that it is a combination of toe and camber that causes wear.
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GSR calipers for the DC chassis are no different than the RS/LS/GS calipers. Part numbers are identical. I looked it up when i was a parts advisor at Acura.
*edit - here are the part numbers for Acura Integra Calipers (may have superceded):
45018-ST7-000 (Fr. R)
45019-ST7-000 (Fr. L)
(RS, LS, GS, GSR)
these are the USDM ITR caliper part numbers ('97-'01)
45018-SM5-000 (Fr. R)
45019-SM5-000 (Fr. L)
*edit - here are the part numbers for Acura Integra Calipers (may have superceded):
45018-ST7-000 (Fr. R)
45019-ST7-000 (Fr. L)
(RS, LS, GS, GSR)
these are the USDM ITR caliper part numbers ('97-'01)
45018-SM5-000 (Fr. R)
45019-SM5-000 (Fr. L)
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One of the biggest ones I can think of?
Oil leaking from B series engines and collecting at the corner of the cylinder head, cylinder block, and top of the transmission case being diagnosed as a head gasket oil leak when in fact the HG doesn't leak oil. It is always either the VTEC valve gasket(s), distributor/o-ring, or the cam plug leaking oil, NOT the damn head gasket!!!
Also another myth is swapping a SOHC VTEC solenoid for a DOHC one to get "better" VTEC when both parts are identical!
There are really far too many to think of. I'm not sure why this is specifically 92-00 Civic specific, but I'll play along for a while.
Oil leaking from B series engines and collecting at the corner of the cylinder head, cylinder block, and top of the transmission case being diagnosed as a head gasket oil leak when in fact the HG doesn't leak oil. It is always either the VTEC valve gasket(s), distributor/o-ring, or the cam plug leaking oil, NOT the damn head gasket!!!
Also another myth is swapping a SOHC VTEC solenoid for a DOHC one to get "better" VTEC when both parts are identical!
There are really far too many to think of. I'm not sure why this is specifically 92-00 Civic specific, but I'll play along for a while.
if you install the head gasket on a b16a wrong it will leak from that area...please dont ask me how i know!!! i havent done it since on any other bseries but i can tell ya is feasible sir..