My new project.. turbo EG sedan. whos ganna expect.
09-10-2003, 06:26 PM
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My new project.. turbo EG sedan. whos ganna expect.
i bought a 92 civic sedan Dx for 500 bucks. well i actually traded my old VAFC plus 250 for it. was running when i got it but smoked like a chimminy, and used tons of oil. my friend bought it for 500 because when we went to look at it the altinator had seesed up. so we cut the belt and drove it hom on battery power.
we now think piston 3 has no rings. pulled a plug when it was running and their was no differance. hmm no wander it was smoking...
goals. i bought a d15b Dx engine, tranny, and altinator for 200bucks. im installing that and im putting together a home made turbo kit for it. eventually im ganna save up and get an ex or si tranny with lsd, sohc vtec and build it up to run 12-20psi. with the stock dx motor im ganna run 8-10. im hoping to run low 14s. my real goals are 13s but im not seeing that happen on a stock dx motor.
Boost pics are on page 2
from what ive read the 92 dx 4dr weighs in at 2,240 so with a little weight reduction and some boost i might reach my goals. with the build block and head i would have no idea what i would aiming for possably 12s but we will see.
Body goals
Everything is ganna be black, i have black M3 mirrors, only because the dx didn;t have a passangers side mirror. im getting black projector hailo headlights, black corner lens's, and im ganna tint the tail lights and windows, either get black or bronze 16" rota slips, i know its trendy but i like them. also considering a z1 boxer body kit by VIS. i can get it for 500 shipped so i may do that after the engine build up. Painted tails on page 2
tell me what u guys think, hoping to run 13s on slicks, for under 1500 bucks total in the car..... think i might do it?
hear are some pics.
Converting borla hatchback axle back to fit sedan. pics on page 2.
updated pics lots more added.
Modified by bmcc72 at 10:24 AM 10/24/2003
we now think piston 3 has no rings. pulled a plug when it was running and their was no differance. hmm no wander it was smoking...
goals. i bought a d15b Dx engine, tranny, and altinator for 200bucks. im installing that and im putting together a home made turbo kit for it. eventually im ganna save up and get an ex or si tranny with lsd, sohc vtec and build it up to run 12-20psi. with the stock dx motor im ganna run 8-10. im hoping to run low 14s. my real goals are 13s but im not seeing that happen on a stock dx motor.
Boost pics are on page 2
from what ive read the 92 dx 4dr weighs in at 2,240 so with a little weight reduction and some boost i might reach my goals. with the build block and head i would have no idea what i would aiming for possably 12s but we will see.
Body goals
Everything is ganna be black, i have black M3 mirrors, only because the dx didn;t have a passangers side mirror. im getting black projector hailo headlights, black corner lens's, and im ganna tint the tail lights and windows, either get black or bronze 16" rota slips, i know its trendy but i like them. also considering a z1 boxer body kit by VIS. i can get it for 500 shipped so i may do that after the engine build up. Painted tails on page 2
tell me what u guys think, hoping to run 13s on slicks, for under 1500 bucks total in the car..... think i might do it?
hear are some pics.
Converting borla hatchback axle back to fit sedan. pics on page 2.
updated pics lots more added.
Modified by bmcc72 at 10:24 AM 10/24/2003
09-10-2003, 06:32 PM
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Re: My new project.. turbo EG sedan. whos ganna expect. (bmcc72)
how bout screw the body mods and spend that all on parts for the motor.
scratch the m3 mirrors and get a passenger side from the junkyard for dirt.
use all the money on motor parts and a nice suspension.
you'd have a nice sleeper
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scratch the m3 mirrors and get a passenger side from the junkyard for dirt.
use all the money on motor parts and a nice suspension.
you'd have a nice sleeper
.
09-10-2003, 06:35 PM
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Re: My new project.. turbo EG sedan. whos ganna expect. (bmcc72)
turbo kit will consist of ihi turbo, hf manifold, custom adapter plate, dsm 450cc injectors, dsm 1G BOV, custom dp, and charge pipes, ford thunderbird turbo coupe intercooler, and most likely a vafc or safc for engine managment. 8psi daily 10psi track.
also im ganna compair the differances in 1/4mile times with the DX and EX trannies.
leave me feed back and sujestions if u have some. thanks
also im ganna compair the differances in 1/4mile times with the DX and EX trannies.
leave me feed back and sujestions if u have some. thanks
09-10-2003, 06:41 PM
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M3 mirrors = $40 shipped junkyard wanted $30
Black corner lights = $18 shipped
Stock tail lights = $18 shipped, (incase i mess up with the tint spray)
Black housing projector lights $125 shipped (haven't orderd them yet)
borla muffler $50 shipped. (will need fabricated off a hatch)
made the mistake of doing the body work last on my integra, this way if i ever need to sell it will be clean and rust free right off the start, also body kit will be next sumer and thats if i even get around to doing it.
The rims are a must especialy on the built d16. the stock steelies will never catch with over 12psi of boost..
Black corner lights = $18 shipped
Stock tail lights = $18 shipped, (incase i mess up with the tint spray)
Black housing projector lights $125 shipped (haven't orderd them yet)
borla muffler $50 shipped. (will need fabricated off a hatch)
made the mistake of doing the body work last on my integra, this way if i ever need to sell it will be clean and rust free right off the start, also body kit will be next sumer and thats if i even get around to doing it.
The rims are a must especialy on the built d16. the stock steelies will never catch with over 12psi of boost..
09-10-2003, 06:47 PM
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Re: My new project.. turbo EG sedan. whos ganna expect. (buzlink)
nice!! i paid a grand for my 93 LX and its painted aftermrket silver, its gonna be a hella sleeper, H22a on the bottle(80-100 shot DP) , god its gonna suprise alot of people
and my 93 LX weighs 2400 even without me , full tank, full size spare, all stock
im gonna try to keep it under 2400 with the h22a
and my 93 LX weighs 2400 even without me , full tank, full size spare, all stock
im gonna try to keep it under 2400 with the h22a
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09-10-2003, 07:00 PM
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Re: My new project.. turbo EG sedan. whos ganna expect. (bmcc72)
when i turboed my hatch, sounded like a damn 18wheeler Takes away from it being a "sleeper" when you can hear the thing spoolin up when you are goin down teh road.
god i miss boost... haha
Takes away from it being a "sleeper" when you can hear the thing spoolin up when you are goin down teh road.god i miss boost... haha
09-10-2003, 07:53 PM
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Re: My new project.. turbo EG sedan. whos ganna expect. (Typesi2nv)
im not feelin the black corners, nor the m3 mirrors, but hey, its your world, right? mad props for turboing a 4dr though....4dr love!
09-11-2003, 05:08 AM
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yeah its got quit a bit ,and the winshield has a bigcrack in it, but with alittle work she'll be looking good in no time. anyone know where i can get the steel plate to make the adapter from the hf mani to the ihi turbo???? thanks
09-11-2003, 05:14 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bmcc72 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anyone know where i can get the steel plate to make the adapter from the hf mani to the ihi turbo???? thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>
My friend just had one made locally at a machine shop for about $20-$25. He gave them the specs and the made it, pretty sure he's using the same type of turbo you are, it's off an older Subaru.
My friend just had one made locally at a machine shop for about $20-$25. He gave them the specs and the made it, pretty sure he's using the same type of turbo you are, it's off an older Subaru.
09-11-2003, 05:58 AM
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Re: My new project.. turbo EG sedan. whos ganna expect. (buzlink)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by buzlink »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">DX 4drs are really that light?
I thought they were more like 2600-2800, maybe I'm thinking of an EX</TD></TR></TABLE>
EX is heavy, but not THAT heavy...EG's are light all around
92 DX 4dr is 2275
92 LX 4dr is 2319
92 EX 4dr is 2480
I thought they were more like 2600-2800, maybe I'm thinking of an EX</TD></TR></TABLE>
EX is heavy, but not THAT heavy...EG's are light all around
92 DX 4dr is 2275
92 LX 4dr is 2319
92 EX 4dr is 2480
09-11-2003, 06:00 AM
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Re: My new project.. turbo EG sedan. whos ganna expect. (djhatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by djhatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how bout screw the body mods and spend that all on parts for the motor.
scratch the m3 mirrors and get a passenger side from the junkyard for dirt.
use all the money on motor parts and a nice suspension.
you'd have a nice sleeper .</TD></TR></TABLE>
well said
scratch the m3 mirrors and get a passenger side from the junkyard for dirt.
use all the money on motor parts and a nice suspension.
you'd have a nice sleeper
.</TD></TR></TABLE>well said
09-11-2003, 07:07 AM
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Re: My new project.. turbo EG sedan. whos ganna expect. (djhatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by djhatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how bout screw the body mods and spend that all on parts for the motor.
scratch the m3 mirrors and get a passenger side from the junkyard for dirt.
use all the money on motor parts and a nice suspension.
you'd have a nice sleeper .</TD></TR></TABLE>
scratch the m3 mirrors and get a passenger side from the junkyard for dirt.
use all the money on motor parts and a nice suspension.
you'd have a nice sleeper
.</TD></TR></TABLE>
09-11-2003, 05:52 PM
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after close examination......NOT i discovered that a valve in cylinder 3 has a chunk out of it. about 1/4" by 1/4" and thats the reason why when we pulled the plug out their was no change in engine tone.... we still think the engine is missing oil rings do to the lager amount of smoke comming from the exhaust. but that could have been caused by the loss of compression... we will eventually find out.
the picture of the head isn;t very good but if u look closy u can see the peice missing from the exhaust side of cylinder 3
update. that intercooler won't fit in the place im holding it in the pic. im ganna put it where the a/c condencer is for the fall/winter/spring, and then when it gets hot out im ganna get a fmic and ditch the turbo coupe intercooler. just thought id inform everyone so no one buys one thinking it will fit their.
Modified by bmcc72 at 11:04 PM 9/11/2003
the picture of the head isn;t very good but if u look closy u can see the peice missing from the exhaust side of cylinder 3
update. that intercooler won't fit in the place im holding it in the pic. im ganna put it where the a/c condencer is for the fall/winter/spring, and then when it gets hot out im ganna get a fmic and ditch the turbo coupe intercooler. just thought id inform everyone so no one buys one thinking it will fit their.
Modified by bmcc72 at 11:04 PM 9/11/2003
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Re: My new project.. turbo EG sedan. whos ganna expect. (bmcc72)
Hot !
Hook up that sedan and post details and pics as you go!
Good luck!
Not too many people give sedan's credit, but I sure surprise quite a few people
Hook up that sedan and post details and pics as you go!
Good luck!
Not too many people give sedan's credit, but I sure surprise quite a few people
09-12-2003, 05:55 PM
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Re: My new project.. turbo EG sedan. whos ganna expect. (bmcc72)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bmcc72 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">after close examination......NOT i discovered that a valve in cylinder 3 has a chunk out of it. about 1/4" by 1/4" and thats the reason why when we pulled the plug out their was no change in engine tone.... we still think the engine is missing oil rings do to the lager amount of smoke comming from the exhaust. but that could have been caused by the loss of compression... we will eventually find out.
the picture of the head isn;t very good but if u look closy u can see the peice missing from the exhaust side of cylinder 3
update. that intercooler won't fit in the place im holding it in the pic. im ganna put it where the a/c condencer is for the fall/winter/spring, and then when it gets hot out im ganna get a fmic and ditch the turbo coupe intercooler. just thought id inform everyone so no one buys one thinking it will fit their.
Modified by bmcc72 at 11:04 PM 9/11/2003</TD></TR></TABLE>
Car may be smoking for 1,2, or all 3 of the following reasons.
1. Valve guides are worn.
2. Valve seals are cracked.
3. Piston rings are shot.
Your lack of compression will be a direct result of a valve not sealing properly because of it being cracked or broken.
Your rings will still be there physically but it sounds like they are waisted.
Good luck with the project
the picture of the head isn;t very good but if u look closy u can see the peice missing from the exhaust side of cylinder 3
update. that intercooler won't fit in the place im holding it in the pic. im ganna put it where the a/c condencer is for the fall/winter/spring, and then when it gets hot out im ganna get a fmic and ditch the turbo coupe intercooler. just thought id inform everyone so no one buys one thinking it will fit their.
Modified by bmcc72 at 11:04 PM 9/11/2003</TD></TR></TABLE>
Car may be smoking for 1,2, or all 3 of the following reasons.
1. Valve guides are worn.
2. Valve seals are cracked.
3. Piston rings are shot.
Your lack of compression will be a direct result of a valve not sealing properly because of it being cracked or broken.
Your rings will still be there physically but it sounds like they are waisted.
Good luck with the project
09-12-2003, 06:03 PM
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good luck with the project
like the one guy said ditch the kit and focus on the motor 
like the one guy said ditch the kit and focus on the motor
09-12-2003, 06:24 PM
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Did you say your gonna KEEP the AC? what about the compressor? not gonna fit if you use the Hf man and adapter plate. maybe you should ditch the air and save weight and room . or go with a different manifold setup instead of the traditional adapter plate.
09-12-2003, 07:08 PM
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i test fitted the turbo and manifold today. clears the a/c. with a little shaving and some creative work with the adapter plate ill get it to work. then ill sell the design so other people can keep their a/c. just need some plates to make them anyone have some forsale cheap. just need the plate.
09-12-2003, 07:22 PM
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your car stock wieghs in at 2275 according to MSN Autos..
http://autos.msn.com/vip/speci...c=vip
Damn i want a 92 cx .... it weighs 2094 STOCK nice but yeah you can get our 4drs DX that is pretty light right now my 96 w/gsr motor and full interior is wieghing in at 2240
http://autos.msn.com/vip/speci...c=vip
Damn i want a 92 cx .... it weighs 2094 STOCK nice but yeah you can get our 4drs DX that is pretty light right now my 96 w/gsr motor and full interior is wieghing in at 2240
09-12-2003, 09:05 PM
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verrrry nice seeing another 4door in the making... i just did a GSR swap
93 DX Sedan - gsr - i/h/e - 14.8 on generic street tires
93 DX Sedan - gsr - i/h/e - 14.8 on generic street tires
09-20-2003, 11:55 AM
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update.
i can;t get the intercooler to fit anywhere but where the a/c condencer is so a/c is ganna go fro now. until i can afford a fmic.
turbo kit so far.
ihi turbo
hf manifold
adapterplate. (almost finished)
dp is in the making,
dsm bov
dsm 450cc injectors
some chargepipes.
delayed because i can;t get my car sold.
hoping to have it sold by october and get this thing finished.
also im waiting on my tail light spray tint to finish the lights. i have most of the rust removed and ill be bondoing soon. keep the comments comming.
also trade my b18a for an sohc vtec. i have a ex cluster in the mail, trying to buy ex axles and tranny.
i can;t get the intercooler to fit anywhere but where the a/c condencer is so a/c is ganna go fro now. until i can afford a fmic.
turbo kit so far.
ihi turbo
hf manifold
adapterplate. (almost finished)
dp is in the making,
dsm bov
dsm 450cc injectors
some chargepipes.
delayed because i can;t get my car sold.
hoping to have it sold by october and get this thing finished.
also im waiting on my tail light spray tint to finish the lights. i have most of the rust removed and ill be bondoing soon. keep the comments comming.
also trade my b18a for an sohc vtec. i have a ex cluster in the mail, trying to buy ex axles and tranny.
10-17-2003, 09:53 PM
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updates got the newer stock dx motor running.
also turbo kit is now almost complete.
IHI turbo
custom adapterplate
custom dp cut and marked by me welded by a friend. he has a welder and more time than i had
DSM 450 injectors
DSM BOV
VAFC for fuel managment
FMIC 26x8x3 its ganna be a nice intercooler
2" charge pipes. (still need them)
oil lines/water lines. (still need them)
boost gauge
A/F gauge
oil psi/water temp/volt meter (still need them)
im kindove worried about the dp looks alittle low but i haven;t droped the car yet to check it. also im still waiting on my ex tranny and axles. this setup will get run 8psi untill i hit a dyno then ill boost 10psi im hoping for atleast 160 whp. so we will see
also turbo kit is now almost complete.
IHI turbo
custom adapterplate
custom dp cut and marked by me welded by a friend. he has a welder and more time than i had
DSM 450 injectors
DSM BOV
VAFC for fuel managment
FMIC 26x8x3 its ganna be a nice intercooler
2" charge pipes. (still need them)
oil lines/water lines. (still need them)
boost gauge
A/F gauge
oil psi/water temp/volt meter (still need them)
im kindove worried about the dp looks alittle low but i haven;t droped the car yet to check it. also im still waiting on my ex tranny and axles. this setup will get run 8psi untill i hit a dyno then ill boost 10psi im hoping for atleast 160 whp.
so we will see