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Old 07-05-2005, 10:06 AM
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so i just put a sirII b16a in my 93 hatch like 3 days ago and my car wont start... its not my electricity cause the power works ive tested my battery or my ignition cause the car ignites and turns over i think its lack of fuel getting into the system which brings me to the question do i need a new fuel pump and injectors??? any comments would be appreciated. TIA
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Don't they have a 100% startup guarantee? I'd call them and list everything you've tried and see what they say.
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the motor already started thats the shitty part i only have 150 miles on it since its been in my car so that wont work i dont think... anybody
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by litterbox &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't they have a 100% startup guarantee? I'd call them and list everything you've tried and see what they say.</TD></TR></TABLE>

only if its installed by a proffesional...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pearlcfcivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

only if its installed by a proffesional... </TD></TR></TABLE>Ahh, I didn't know that.
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check main relay, make sure fuel pump is actually turning on, are u gettin any cels?
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HMotors online fucked me over once...
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no cel at all just wont start... thanks for all the help
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by loc lowd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">HMotors online fucked me over once... </TD></TR></TABLE>

ive heared of this happening thats why im not buying my motor from them, paying the extra money would be worth it if the 100% start up warrenty was true

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EG1racer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">check main relay, make sure fuel pump is actually turning on, are u gettin any cels? </TD></TR></TABLE>

same here try those, main relay will start to not work when its hot out and then one day wont...
Old 07-05-2005, 11:17 AM
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check if its giving fuel...some 92-95 civic i have seen wont give fuel to the motor b/c of the harness
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if you don't think you are getting fuel check and see, make sure all your grounds are ground and like said before make sure pump is priming, a worn, weak sohc feul pump will not put out enough fuel for a b16, factory they b16s come with 135lph pump versus the 79lph pump your sohc cam came with. also check relay if pump is not priming and filter if it is, one last thing check ur fuses, if all that checks out call steve cause it prolly your coil or something else iin the dizzy. hope this helps

P.S. I got my b16a swap from steve and it has run fine for the last 2 years/50k miles and doesn't burn any oil
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egsleepercivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

P.S. I got my b16a swap from steve and it has run fine for the last 2 years/50k miles and doesn't burn any oil </TD></TR></TABLE>


Yea, I've heard a few people get lucky...more cons than pros about it. He sent me a cracked intake manny, and the area around the timing belt was burnt to hell(fire?)

When I asked him to replace it if I sent it back to him, he never responded...this was a day after receiving my b16a2 engine...

3rd gear grind was a bitch in it, and it's compression was all fucked up.

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I had a problem with my car not starting. Does it crank at all? Mine didnt crank. I Didnt have the tranny ground hooked up. Even if you have all the grounds hooked up add a couple and see if that works
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did your fuel pump give out, what car did you swap it into?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by loc lowd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


Yea, I've heard a few people get lucky...more cons than pros about it. He sent me a cracked intake manny, and the area around the timing belt was burnt to hell(fire?)

When I asked him to replace it if I sent it back to him, he never responded...this was a day after receiving my b16a2 engine...

3rd gear grind was a bitch in it, and it's compression was all fucked up.

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Has HMO gone down the ******* or what I, not to long ago all I heard was good things about HMO, now it seems like I keep hearing more and more bad things?
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mine was just ground problems...
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try some quick start, had same problem while ago
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thanx for all the help guys i had to get my car towed up to my homeys shop cause this car just isnt having it for me... we'll see what happens next
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by loc lowd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">HMotors online fucked me over once... </TD></TR></TABLE>

Same here. IAS is the only way to go.


Check all your grounds. Check all the fuses with a multimeter. Sometimes they can be blown and don't look like it.

I have a spare 99 si fuel pump if you are interested.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pearlcfcivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

same here try those, main relay will start to not work when its hot out and then one day wont...</TD></TR></TABLE>

This happens on my brothers DA9 ALL the time. All though, his car will start and then immediatley die.
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Default Re: my hmotors b16 wont start??? HELP (pearlcfcivic)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pearlcfcivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

only if its installed by a proffesional... </TD></TR></TABLE>


Care to explain that a little more? What is considered a professional? How about us backyard guys.

I had someone bring me a motor from HMO and we threw it in and it started right up, runs strong and clean as all hell. But if i was to get a motor from them and it doesnt start up i would hope to get a refund or a new motor.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luserkid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


Care to explain that a little more? What is considered a professional? How about us backyard guys.

I had someone bring me a motor from HMO and we threw it in and it started right up, runs strong and clean as all hell. But if i was to get a motor from them and it doesnt start up i would hope to get a refund or a new motor. </TD></TR></TABLE>

read the fine print on there web site what i mean by a proffesonal is like a shop, my friend got a b16 from them and we put it in and it ran great but i have heard so many horror stories that, what make buying a motor from them any less risky than buying a motor from anyone else... get my drift, at least on ebay you could go after them for selling you a junky motor... threw an escrow service
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Default Re: my hmotors b16 wont start??? HELP (pearlcfcivic)

alright guys it was the fuel pump and relay lines that went out so i had to buy new ones and they cost $170 otd... once again thanx for all your help cheers
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pearlcfcivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

read the fine print on there web site what i mean by a proffesonal is like a shop</TD></TR></TABLE>

what? Honestly, **** that! I do better work than most shops.
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yah that kind of is goin out on a limb to save there *** but i mean in all honesty how are they ever gonna find out who really did the swap... sneaky but theres a lot of money towards the motor invested and i dont wanna be completely fucked you know...
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