My brakes are messed...help please!
07-15-2004, 11:19 AM
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My brakes are messed...help please!
Hey guys, i think my brakes are kinda screwed and i'm a newb to all this so i'd appreciate ur help
anyways if i slam on my brakes the wheels don't lock up....i drive a 00 sir and the fuse for the abs wastaken out.....anyway i put it back inand slammed on the brakes and they don't lock up and the abs does n't kick in.....
What could be the problem.....shitty brakes? (i had new ones put in two months ago)...could it be badbrake fluid, do i need bleed the brakes? i have no clue
please help!!!!
Thanks in advanced
anyways if i slam on my brakes the wheels don't lock up....i drive a 00 sir and the fuse for the abs wastaken out.....anyway i put it back inand slammed on the brakes and they don't lock up and the abs does n't kick in.....
What could be the problem.....shitty brakes? (i had new ones put in two months ago)...could it be badbrake fluid, do i need bleed the brakes? i have no clue
please help!!!!
Thanks in advanced
07-15-2004, 11:53 AM
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Re: My brakes are messed...help please! (filthy_shovel)
the abs fuse was out when i bought the car like 2 months ago so i put one back in just recently.....the pedal feels too soft....i jus want to know what could possibly be causing this
it seems like the brakes are not getting enough pressure or something....i dunno thats y i'm asking
it seems like the brakes are not getting enough pressure or something....i dunno thats y i'm asking
07-15-2004, 12:02 PM
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Re: My brakes are messed...help please! (Enzo)
Listen, in order for me to help you, i have to ask you questions. CHill man...
What happened when you put the ABS fuse back in? You see, i don't like that. THat fuse should off been there when you bought it. DId the previous owner tell you why it was not there?
Was the pedal soft prior to the pad replacement?
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What happened when you put the ABS fuse back in? You see, i don't like that. THat fuse should off been there when you bought it. DId the previous owner tell you why it was not there?
Was the pedal soft prior to the pad replacement?
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07-15-2004, 12:06 PM
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when you install new brakes you must bleed the system all the way around. The point of having ABS is that when you slam on the brakes they DONT lock up....
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07-15-2004, 12:10 PM
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Re: (Andres-eh2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Andres-eh2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> The point of having ABS is that when you slam on the brakes they DONT lock up....</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yep.
Yep.
07-15-2004, 12:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Andres-eh2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">when you install new brakes you must bleed the system all the way around. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Not if you have not broken the integrity on the system e.i replaced lines or calipers.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Andres-eh2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The point of having ABS is that when you slam on the brakes they DONT lock up....</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, but he states that they don't even kick in... So either he does not know how it feels when they kick in, or something else is wrong
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Not if you have not broken the integrity on the system e.i replaced lines or calipers.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Andres-eh2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The point of having ABS is that when you slam on the brakes they DONT lock up....</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, but he states that they don't even kick in... So either he does not know how it feels when they kick in, or something else is wrong
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07-15-2004, 12:19 PM
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Re: (Andres-eh2)
yesi know that......even with the fuse in the brakes don't generate enought power to make abs kick in u know what i mean?
The pedal started to feel different after we changed the pads....and with the abs fuse back in it mad no difference
The pedal started to feel different after we changed the pads....and with the abs fuse back in it mad no difference
07-15-2004, 12:20 PM
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Re: (filthy_shovel)
hahahahaha i know what abs feels like guys....i'm not that much of a newb....and yes like the man said they don't kick in at all.....
07-15-2004, 01:07 PM
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Well, if the pedal is soft, and doesn't feel like enough pressure, than I would try a re-bleed of the brakes. That is if you opened the bleed screws or messed with the lines in any other way.
What type of brakes did you instal?
What type of brakes did you instal?
07-15-2004, 01:15 PM
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Enzo, i think you would be better off to get a service manual for your car. Everything is explained....
Now before we go on, what have you replaced when you did your brake job?
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Now before we go on, what have you replaced when you did your brake job?
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07-15-2004, 01:19 PM
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Re: (Enzo)
there are bleeder valves on the front and back, you need to open one at a time, and pump the brakes, then hold them, and fluid/air will come out of the lines, start in front, i forget the exact pattern, but, i would bleed the brakes for staters! and go from there 
pretty sure anti lock, and conventional are bled the same way? never messed with abs...
pretty sure anti lock, and conventional are bled the same way? never messed with abs...
07-15-2004, 01:34 PM
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A little Extra help for you..
To give you a little idea of where the valves are, you will see them right away when you get in there... at least, one would hope.. ;p
And here is the order in which you should bleed them!
hope that helps!
To give you a little idea of where the valves are, you will see them right away when you get in there... at least, one would hope.. ;p
And here is the order in which you should bleed them!
hope that helps!
07-15-2004, 01:40 PM
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thanx for the help guys i really do appreciate everything u guys input....but do u think bleeding the brakes would take care of the issue....and if not what else could it be? btw the brake pads were bought from honda dealership
07-15-2004, 01:45 PM
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Re: (filthy_shovel)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by filthy_shovel »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Enzo, no one here can tell you until you state what you have done when you did your brake job!</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah, i mean, did you just change the pads?? You say you have a mushy brake pedal, that sounds like air in the lines to me.. but, it could really be a number of things.. so, enlighten us, what did you do to your brakes? and was it the front? the rear? or both?
yeah, i mean, did you just change the pads?? You say you have a mushy brake pedal, that sounds like air in the lines to me.. but, it could really be a number of things.. so, enlighten us, what did you do to your brakes? and was it the front? the rear? or both?
07-15-2004, 01:50 PM
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Re: (aphex23)
k sorry for not being specific guys.....ummmm ya they are four wheel disc brakes and i jus changed the pads......thats it jus changed em....i checked my brake fluid level and its fine.....so i'm lost
07-15-2004, 01:54 PM
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how far do i have to turn the bleeding screws in order for the air to come out? and how will i know what screw it is? and is there anything i can screw up if i do it worng? and what tools do i need in order to do this?
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Re: (Enzo)
Yes you can screw this up, like anything else in life.
Grab your buddy, the same buddy that helped you with your brake job and have him help you. THe screw sits right there on the caliper you can't miss it at all.
You don't have to open it alot, about half a turn.
Be carefull though, they may be tough to unscrew the first time...
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Grab your buddy, the same buddy that helped you with your brake job and have him help you. THe screw sits right there on the caliper you can't miss it at all.
You don't have to open it alot, about half a turn.
Be carefull though, they may be tough to unscrew the first time...
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Re: (filthy_shovel)
sorry for these dumb questions guys and i do appreciate ur help....i think i know what to do in order to bleed these brakes but i wanna be sure i do.......one more thing how will i know that the are bled enough? and how will i know if i fkt it up?