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Old 04-19-2009, 02:28 PM
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I bought a 1992 civic hb cx and the guy claimed he did a motor swap from 1998 ex civic, just wondering if this is true. look at pic...any thoughts? thx



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well he indeed did a motor swap because the zc engine only comes from japan.. but its not a d16y8 motor.. meaning its not a 98 ex civic motor... looks like a zc block with a vtec head.. kinda like a mini me swap.. the head could be from the d16y8 though.. hrmmmm
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Originally Posted by raidacaipo
well he indeed did a motor swap because the zc engine only comes from japan.. but its not a d16y8 motor.. meaning its not a 98 ex civic motor... looks like a zc block with a vtec head.. kinda like a mini me swap.. the head could be from the d16y8 though.. hrmmmm
Thats a z6 intake mani,injectors and fuel rail. looks like a zc block with a z6 head to me
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sorry i think it's a 97 motor not 98,if that makes any difference.
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sorry i think it's a 97 motor not 98,if that makes any difference.
I think this could be faster than a d16y8... do you know what ecu your using?
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Originally Posted by codrulz
sorry i think it's a 97 motor not 98,if that makes any difference.
96-98 = the same
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I think this could be faster than a d16y8... do you know what ecu your using?
dont know exactly what you mean. can u explain.
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its a sohc zc vtec. i have the same motor in my car.
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yep. SOHC ZC is the same as a D16Z6. Its a 91-95 motor. But idk as in the case of the ZC's.
Old 04-19-2009, 06:54 PM
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if it is a mini me thats not a y8 head. The valve covers are different. Unless its a y8 head with a z6 valve cover its not a y8 head. It probably is a jdm engine.
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like Jimster and zccivic state above.. its a jdm zc which is identical to a d16z6... which means it have vtec
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Originally Posted by codrulz
dont know exactly what you mean. can u explain.
ecu is that little grey computer box about 6"x9". Its located on the passenger floor under the dash panel. It has a sticker on the ecu which will have a specific code. That usually tells you what your running and what motor you have.
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ok thx. i will check that
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The car is a sohc zc motor some of those came in hatch si or coupes stock they came with the vtec head already an they run off with a p28 oh man have you been getting alot of problems with that engine all the people that i know that had that engine had problems like crazy...
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Originally Posted by EG6KILIN
The car is a sohc zc motor some of those came in hatch si or coupes stock they came with the vtec head already an they run off with a p28 oh man have you been getting alot of problems with that engine all the people that i know that had that engine had problems like crazy...
yeah but he has a civic cx not a civic si.. and his car is usdm not jdm therefore it does not come with a jdm zc engine..
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Originally Posted by raidacaipo
yeah but he has a civic cx not a civic si.. and his car is usdm not jdm therefore it does not come with a jdm zc engine..
yeah so meaning they swap that motor on to the car i said they came in si hatch an civic coupe ex from 92-95!!!
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Huh I was under the understanding that zc's were not vtec. I thought that they were just a normal motor with not varable timing electronic control. What it seems like to me that he has is a zc block with a z6 head making it a mini me. The 3 zc's I've owned 2 single cam's and one dual cam never had a vtec crossover and I installed 1 single and one dual cam my self and know the wiring was right. Who knows though maybe there was some uber super rare "jdm vtec zc" that exists only in internet jdm land?
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Originally Posted by 4gen5thtime
Huh I was under the understanding that zc's were not vtec. I thought that they were just a normal motor with not varable timing electronic control. What it seems like to me that he has is a zc block with a z6 head making it a mini me. The 3 zc's I've owned 2 single cam's and one dual cam never had a vtec crossover and I installed 1 single and one dual cam my self and know the wiring was right. Who knows though maybe there was some uber super rare "jdm vtec zc" that exists only in internet jdm land?
I believe that the dohc zc is non vtec
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Its a vtec ZC, there were numerous D-series engines stamped ZC, about 8 IIRC

SOHC non Vtec ZC
SOHC dual carbed ZC
SOHC Vtec ZC
DOHC non vtec OBD0 ZC
DOHC non vtec OBD1 ZC

there are more than that, but those definately exist, all are stamped simple ZC.
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Well its not fact. motor. So guy may have been telling truth then. Roughly how much pwr does motor have then,basicly stock w/header & exhaust. Also would it be hard to make it a dohc & would that help pwr?
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Roughly 130ish to the crank. So after drivetrain loss about 90-100hp at the wheels or less. To make it a dohc you would have to swap out the motor, do some wiring, motor mounts, trans, unless you go with a dual cam zc then you would just have some wiring and lil things. So unless your good at wrenching or have some friends to help you out I'd say yes it would be hard to make a a dohc. But the power gains from something like a ls/vtec or a b20/vtec would be very nice and noticable. I'd say just drive your car the way it is and start saving for a swap. Or you could just go K series.
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sorry but whats considered K series?
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K series is out of a 02+ acura rsx, or a 03+ civic(not sure what year it started in civic), the best one is the one out of a Rsx type s. Or you could jdm and go with a 02+ integra type r(same thing as rsx but still kept integra name). Its gonna run you around $4-$6k for a full swap in your car mounts wired and all. Search some or your gonna get flamed.

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Originally Posted by 4gen5thtime
K series is out of a 02+ acura rsx, or a 03+ civic(not sure what year it started in civic), the best one is the one out of a Rsx type s. Or you could jdm and go with a 02+ integra type r(same thing as rsx but still kept integra name). Its gonna run you around $4-$6 for a full swap in your car mounts wired and all. Search some or your gonna get flamed.
the engine alone will cost you about $3-4k then parts after that will add up. you MIGHT be able to do the full swap for $4k-6k but if you do the jdm k20a it will run you about $8k-9k
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True, I was to tired to type it all out. That's why I told him to research before going any more. I've seen a few k's with trans go on ebay for $3500 then another $500 for mounts and wiring, then $500-800 to have it installed, then $500+ for if you want i/h/e what ever else. So right around $4800 installed if you just go stock and know the right shop.


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