EK FLY

# The Si will definitely be a coupe
# The body is said to be low and wide and quite sporty in appearance, borrowing some styling cues from several current Honda and Acura models, particularly the flared wheel wells with circular arches. The A-pillar has a dramatic sweep, very similar to the rake shown in the spyshots of the European Civic that were published earlier.
# The projector headlight housings are said to be shaped like the TSX's
# Track-tuned suspension sits as much as 1" lower than stock, wheel well gaps are said to be minimal.
# The Si will use 17" wheels with 205 or 215mm width tires.
# The transmission will be a standard 6MT
# The engine is said to be i-VTEC, with at least 200hp. Supposedly the possibility exists that it will get 210 hp or more
# The seats will be quite sporty with fairly aggressive bolstering
# A Navi system is rumored to be an option
# Si will launch slightly later than regular coupe and sedan models, late in Q4 of 2005.



INFO FROME THE TEMPLE OF VTEC SOUNDS GOOD SO RSX OWNERS STEP AWAY

31flavorscivic

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haha tight. I missed the SI coupes from back in 99,00

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I love those things

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thats a first for the SI. Thats kinda cool.

I can't wait to see this! Im psyched. Now I have to wait forever to own one.

BlueIntegraBoy

iTrader: (5)

If the Si gets a K20A2 or Z1, then the RSX and TSX needs a bump in power also. This new Si probably will have an MSRP of the Type-S if it has the stuff you say it has. That's a lot of money for a Civic.

DJ_SaNdOz

If this is true that's cool. But, IMO it's still to early to go on rumors. I still think that Si's should remain in the hatchback form, but the 99-00 Si was OK I guess.

If they do put out an Si w/ 200 hp, I bet the Type S is discontinued, or get's more hp to justify the higher price tag/Acura badge.

EK FLY

Targa250R

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Don't hold your breath for anything more than 200hp . . . especially if you expect the price to be less than RSX-S.

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It is 100% guaranteed that Honda is doing another coupe this time around. The EM1 was a huge success while the EP3 was a miserable failure. Honda is not going to waste their time with financial risks just because people "think the Si should be a hatchback." Obviously, the market preferred the coupe. The few vocal whiners who cried for a 7th-gen Si hatchback got what they wanted, but yet they didn't buy it. Honda is going to follow the market.

The EP3 is the only Honda Civic to ever debut with dealer incentives.

The EM1 sold so fast that it actually appreciated in value for 2-3 years afterwards.

pdiggitydogg

Id rather buy a Fit

Targa250R

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Can't argue with that.

Now where the hell is it?

pdiggitydogg

In with the same rumors that surround this new si.
Supposedly, its coming in 2k6 also

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-- Continue introduction of new products in the light truck category, including an all-new Odyssey (fall 2004), Honda SUT (spring 2005), and Acura brand SUV.
-- Strengthen Honda's competitive advantage in the passenger car category with an all-new Acura RL (fall 2004) and a new entry-level Honda model (2006).
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http://world.honda.com/news/2004/c040715_03.html

BlueIntegraBoy

iTrader: (5)

^^^ They are talking about the Fit

Targa250R

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At $19,000, the Civic Si is already too expensive. The EP3 is just uncompetitive with other sport compacts in its price range. It should have either offered more, or cost less.

When the EM1 debuted at $17,000, it was the right performance (relative to the competition at the time), the right equipment, and the right setup - all at the right price.

In 1991, the Civic Si cost somewhere around $13-14,000. I'm sure that the 8th-gen will top $20,000. But just look at the difference in specs . . . the G8 will have performance and luxury comparable to cars that did sell in the $20,000 range back in 1991.

As far as Civics getting expensive, it's just the way the market flows in America. Current 7th-gen Civics are the size of a late-'80s Accord. Civics are also equipped far better than they used to be, and the cost of developing and building a car has definitely increased a lot since then. They just keep getting bigger, heavier, and more expensive (but unfortunately, not proportionally more powerful ). The Honda Civic as we knew it is gone forever - might as well say goodbye.

Now we just have to wait for a replacement . . . another inexpensive, lightweight, sparsely-yet-generously-equipped tuner-friendly economobile like the cars we all know and love. The Fit was supposed to be here just for that purpose, but where the hell is it?

The RSX has one more model year before its redesign if Honda stays true to their current 3+2 year product cycle, so I wouldn't worry about it much. As far as the TSX goes, don't expect much more for at least another 3 model years.

snowman16

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JDMFreak

good topic, im always in favor of the hatches, but the new si hatch was not too hot, i think if honda would make a coupe si again i think i would rather buy that then the hatch, also if we pretend that the new si would look similair to our current coupe civic, but with a beefy motor, i would choose the coupe over a hatch anyday