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Old 10-25-2004, 10:01 PM
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i was just wondering off of which car do i need the master cylinder from...i have a 95 civic dx and i just did my rear disk conversion the other day...thanks in advance
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Default Re: which master cylinder? (JDM BoI)

before they flame you what two cars you talking about??
Old 10-25-2004, 10:03 PM
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Default Re: which master cylinder? (civictildeath)

oops i would say an si
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Default Re: which master cylinder? (civictildeath)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civictildeath &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">before they flame you what two cars you talking about??</TD></TR></TABLE>
lol...thanks...the rear disk came off of a 96 gsr
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Default Re: which master cylinder? (JDM BoI)

use that one then
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Default Re: which master cylinder? (JDM BoI)

you can use your factory one but not to its full potential.

non abs mc/bb and 4040 valve from a 94+ RS integra will do. direct bolt on.
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Default Re: which master cylinder? (civictildeath)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civictildeath &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">use that one then</TD></TR></TABLE>

if you want to bend and flare some lines.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by =GAMEOVER= &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can use your factory one but not to its full potential.

non abs mc/bb and 4040 valve from a 94+ RS integra will do.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yea talk about not having full potential....**** sux...almost down to the floor board. by any chance u guys know how much its going to run me?
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Default Re: which master cylinder? (JDM BoI)

check the ebay. i say somewhere between 50-75 for the mc/bb

im just using the mc/bb w/o the 4040 prop and it grabs pretty good.

brake booster give the pedal a noticeable difference.
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would it be possible to use a 93 gsr cylinder?
Old 10-25-2004, 11:16 PM
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Default Re: which master cylinder? (JDM BoI)

actually in my 93 dx, im using the master cylinder and brake booster from a 92 integra LS and its a direct bolt on as well. not too sure about the GSR tho.
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Default Re: which master cylinder? (=GAMEOVER=)

well i'm pretty sure that the LS one would work just as good..hmm
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Default Re: which master cylinder? (JDM BoI)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM BoI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i was just wondering off of which car do i need the master cylinder from...i have a 95 civic dx and i just did my rear disk conversion the other day...thanks in advance</TD></TR></TABLE>
You could:

A) Use an Integra master cylinder, but since it will not bolt up directly to your Civic booster, you will have to swap the Integra booster as well. If you get these from an Integra with ABS, you will also need to reflare and/or bend one of the brake lines, I believe.

B) Get yourself a '90-91 Civic EX 4dr. master cylinder, which is 15/16" and will bolt up directly to your Civic booster and lines.

Make sure you use a flare nut wrench on the brake line fittings. If you haven't done so already, swap in a '94-01 Integra or '92-95 Civic Si proportioning valve. And do not listen to anyone claiming the booster makes a difference in pedal feel, because they don't know what they are talking about.
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Default Re: which master cylinder? (JDM BoI)

If all you did was a rear disc conversion then there is NO need for a 15/16ths master cylinder until you upgrade your front brakes to Integra-spec brakes.

Why?

The bigger master cylinder will actually make braking WORSE with stock small-*** Civic front brakes.
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Default Re: which master cylinder? (JDM BoI)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM BoI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i was just wondering off of which car do i need the master cylinder from...i have a 95 civic dx and i just did my rear disk conversion the other day...thanks in advance</TD></TR></TABLE>


I just got mine rear disk swap done the other day too...I had the problem with the brake pedal going further down than usual...what i did was I kept bleeding it a few more times and now its back to normal...I didn't change the master cylinder or brake booster...i have an ek hatch...
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Default Re: which master cylinder? (igone916)

I did the read brake swap in my 2k civic and the stock one works liek a champ? If your pedal is going to the floorboard then Id say someone needs to bleed their breaks or bleed them right.
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Default Re: which master cylinder? (monicle)

If you swap front and rear brakes off an Integra do you really need to swap prop valves? They look the same to me.
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Default Re: which master cylinder? (litterbox)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by litterbox &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you swap front and rear brakes off an Integra do you really need to swap prop valves? They look the same to me.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I got integra fronts and 00 si rears...I'm using the stock pro valve, master cylinder, and brake booster...my braking is great...the handling is much better after i got the rears in...I didn't have to change anything...
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Default Re: which master cylinder? (igone916)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C5-EH2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If all you did was a rear disc conversion then there is NO need for a 15/16ths master cylinder until you upgrade your front brakes to Integra-spec brakes.

Why?

The bigger master cylinder will actually make braking WORSE with stock small-*** Civic front brakes.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Either way, a bigger master cylinder = more brake fluid displacement per inch of pedal travel = less pedal travel.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrduque &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Either way, a bigger master cylinder = more brake fluid displacement per inch of pedal travel = less pedal travel. </TD></TR></TABLE>

That's not always a good thing though. If you upgrade to a bigger m/c and keep stock front small Civic brakes, then the pdeal is ROCK hard and feels like ****. also you'll have to press the pdeal harder just to get decent braking from this set-up.
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