manual steering rack in power steering car
11-27-2004, 05:48 AM
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manual steering rack in power steering car
i have a 95 ex coupe and the owner before me removed the power steering and didnt loop the system right he just let all the fluid leak out so the rack is messed up. will a manual rack just bolt right up?
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11-28-2004, 11:28 AM
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the steering knuckles are different? couldnt you use different tie rod ends or somethin? that would be a pain to take off the whole knuckles, ya gotta unbolt all that ****, rather than one ball joint, its 3. and the caliper, and the rotor and ****.
11-28-2004, 12:12 PM
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You'll need to swap over a complete 1992-1995 Honda Civic CX manual rack. Good luck finding one at the junks. New ones at Honda are a bit pricey.
Have you tired to salvage the rack? Looping it with fresh P/S fluid and checking if the problems goes away?
Have you tired to salvage the rack? Looping it with fresh P/S fluid and checking if the problems goes away?
11-28-2004, 05:02 PM
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Hmm... My wheel has about an inch in play before it moves. Last week I started hearing a horrible creaking noise coming from the front of the car during braking and when i turned while still... could this be my steering rack? I know i dont have ps but i believe the car did at one point and the previous owner removed it. any ideas?
11-28-2004, 05:08 PM
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Re: (eL)
im pretty sure you dont need the new knuckles for the rack swap.
i put gsr brakes on and i dont have ps. bolts straight on.
all u need to do is swap the rack.
they do sell a ps loop kit so you loop it. its somewhere on here.
ps rack has a faster ratio then the non ps one. also es makes bushings for the ps one and not the non ps one.
but mugen dose makes bushings for the non ps rack i plan to get them maybe in spring time.
anyways im just babbling usless ****.
but you can swap another ps rack in and loop it the right way. its alittle harder to turn but not too bad i gess. just throwing options out so you dont pull ur hair out trying to find a non ps rack lol
i put gsr brakes on and i dont have ps. bolts straight on.
all u need to do is swap the rack.
they do sell a ps loop kit so you loop it. its somewhere on here.
ps rack has a faster ratio then the non ps one. also es makes bushings for the ps one and not the non ps one.
but mugen dose makes bushings for the non ps rack i plan to get them maybe in spring time.
anyways im just babbling usless ****.
but you can swap another ps rack in and loop it the right way. its alittle harder to turn but not too bad i gess. just throwing options out so you dont pull ur hair out trying to find a non ps rack lol
11-29-2004, 07:10 AM
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Re: (BlackOnBlackTeg)
if you are putting in a non-power steering rack, then take a look at the quick quaife racks...
http://www.quaifeamerica.com/ --> suspension
http://www.quaifeamerica.com/ --> suspension
11-29-2004, 07:27 AM
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Re: manual steering rack in power steering car (BlackOnBlackTeg)
i did alot of research on the power to manual rack swap. found what i was looking for and did it i have a 94 ex coupe and put in a dx manual steering rack, it went right in i didn't have to change a thing also while i was in there i put in my poly bushings from energy suspesions and everything works like a dream i did have to buy new outer tie rod ends because the ball joints were old and decrepid that was about 40 per side from the dealer though, but if your outter tie rods ends are still good then you don't need to buy anything
by the way my manual rack cost me 50 buck at the junk yard
by the way my manual rack cost me 50 buck at the junk yard
11-29-2004, 07:35 AM
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Re: manual steering rack in power steering car (mrehagencivic)
i bought a manual rack for my ej from a junkyard and then proceeded to go to honda 3 different times trying to get the right steering knuckle that goes under the dash.. none of them fit right so i just looped off my power rack and now it is going bad. do u have to change the male end that comes off of the steerig wheel somehow?
11-29-2004, 07:52 AM
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Re: manual steering rack in power steering car (BlackOnBlackTeg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlackOnBlackTeg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> the owner before me removed the power steering and didnt loop the system right he just let all the fluid leak out so the rack is messed up</TD></TR></TABLE>
ok... question. how is the rack "messed" up? there is no need to loop the syspem, you can just drain it and plug the rack. despite what you read on h-t, i have been doing this for years, before h-t was even a url...
anywhom, what is the problem with the rack? pm me if necessary.
ok... question. how is the rack "messed" up? there is no need to loop the syspem, you can just drain it and plug the rack. despite what you read on h-t, i have been doing this for years, before h-t was even a url...
anywhom, what is the problem with the rack? pm me if necessary.
11-29-2004, 07:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eL »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hmm... My wheel has about an inch in play before it moves. </TD></TR></TABLE>
adjust the play in the rack. helms decribes this in detail. you need to have a special wrench, or a wrench fabbed up out of steel.
adjust the play in the rack. helms decribes this in detail. you need to have a special wrench, or a wrench fabbed up out of steel.
11-29-2004, 03:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hayabusa160 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">damn i didnt kno you can adjust the play. i got about 1 inch of play too</TD></TR></TABLE>
you can adjust it...to a point. if you have half a turn play, your rack is done....
you can adjust it...to a point. if you have half a turn play, your rack is done....
01-31-2005, 07:44 PM
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First off I have a 94 civic ex with all the power options
Well I just found out the car I bought has a bad rack & pinion along with a busted front axel. What I would like to do is remove the bad “power” rack & pinion and replace it with a manual set up. So far after reading this thread it seems like I need to find a manual rack at a yard or buy one “but from who”? Is there any more info on how to do this?
First off I have a 94 civic ex with all the power options
Well I just found out the car I bought has a bad rack & pinion along with a busted front axel. What I would like to do is remove the bad “power” rack & pinion and replace it with a manual set up. So far after reading this thread it seems like I need to find a manual rack at a yard or buy one “but from who”? Is there any more info on how to do this?
