ek9child

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one bad dx

I'd go ls/vtec, more reliable anyday. sohc d-series boosted=168hp, my n/a ls/vtec with intake and exhaust with ecu chip 201whp and 36mpg. Do the math and thats really good!! All honda oem stock internals.

bmoua

ls/vtec wont be reliable....the D boosted wont be reliable....haha...

Got_soy

how did you only figure 168?

ek9child

i still dont understand why people say lsvtec is unreliable. i have a turbo sohc right now, its cool and all but i want something different. and i found a lsvtec motor for 350 bucks so i was thinking i might get that, if i do what should i do to it to make it reliable? (rod stud?head stud?)

scrappysofly

what motor z6 y8? but n e way i would go ls vetc and spry it a little if you are looking for speed

Bense

as i've said many times

noobs stick to b-series.

ek9child

boosting y7 motor at 7psi

Bense

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fixed it for you

why would you want to swap engines/transmissions/axles/distributors/header all that other bs when you don't have to.

pynikal

boost the D if you blow it its hella cheaper than the B

slodel

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek9child &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i still dont understand why people say lsvtec is unreliable. i have a turbo sohc right now, its cool and all but i want something different. and i found a lsvtec motor for 350 bucks so i was thinking i might get that, if i do what should i do to it to make it reliable? (rod stud?head stud?)</TD></TR></TABLE>

350 you get what you pay for

168hp dont know where that came from i am looking at about 280 290whp and mid 12s, stock D and not a very expensive custom kit, both are great i built an lsvtec 2 yrs ago pretty cool either way do it right the first time

kazman

lsvtec FOR SURE.

pynikal

as you can see your gonna get all kinds of different answers so its really up to you.

ej8dude

i would go for a turbo soch thats what i did on my 99 civic ex...i boosted the **** out of that beast...its cheap(hf mani, any civic or integra charge piping,dsm bov and turbo can find anywhere) plus the lsvtec has too much damn compression and would blow hella fast...

if you end up choosing turbo then you have to think about what size turbo you would like to run t25, t3/t04, super 60...the list goes on....if you want the quick spool with minimal turbo lag go with the dsm t25(good thing is youll spool around 2500rpm's bad thing is ull be doneboostin around 5000-5500rpms then relying on vtec to keep u goin the rest of the way! if you dont mind a bit of lag then go with the t3 youll boost around 3500rpms and keep boostin from then on... anything bigger would be stupid
btw...i kept up with my buddies h22 93 civic coupe with my turbo d...


but good luck man-chris

O RLY

There's three choices here, and I'm gonna give you my opinion.

1) You think a turbo is nice for sound, looks, and some speed. Just boost the D-series. You won't waste much money, and you'll be running with your local N/A K-series buddies.

2) You want a turbo, but are willing to wait to make power. Try the LS VTEC. Run N/A for a while and save up. You'll make great numbers on 8 psi, and you should be able to run low 13s, maybe even high 12s if you can hook up.

3) You are totally serious and you have a credit card or two. Buy a B18C1 GSR, or my personal favorite the H22A OBD1. Sleeve the B18/run Mahles in the H22, throw 18 psi at the motor and run 11s all day, making you 'THE ****' in your neighborhood.

I went with the H series route. The only reason, everyone in PA builds CRVTECs and B18s. I threw Mahle pistons in, Eagle rods, full Crower valvetrain, LSD, ACT flywheel and clutch, about $5000 more in engine mods including a Hondata, and in a few weeks I'll be bolting my beautiful T3/T61 turbo to my H22 EJ. I have over $8000 into the engine and transmission, but if you want to make lots of power, you need to pay lots of money. Otherwise just stick with choice 1 or 2.

Rash Ej1 SiR

sohc turbo is for noobs, ls vtec is the way to go, ppl say its unreliable, but not if you build it the right way, im in the process of building a LS Vtec, with boost :D, now thats the real way to go yo!!!! :D

ek9child

whats the "right" way to build it? i just need a motor to be able to depended on and not break down every often. Whats the basic thing you need to make this motor to be able to rev up to 8000 rpm. i know that the bottom end of the LS is pretty weak and with the head screaming to be rev high, the bottom end wouldnt know. What would make the bottom end hold, i heard rod bolts from arp is what you will need to rev pass 8000k. what else do you need, besides new pistons and new rods?

AGENT 99

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Horrible misinformation.

axtran

my friend has a boosted LS/Vtec that he paid tons of money to get the engine Built before he turboed. I mean with money you get where you want to, i personally have seen a D16Y7 with a turbo run high 12's and doesn't require any weird mods or major work on the car but a turbo kit. all depends on what you wanna do really

Rash Ej1 SiR

well, i believe you have your facts wrong man, because from the research iv done, the ls block is the strong, and best for boost app. The way im building is, well, the block im pickin up has a bit of work done for me that i was gonna anyways do, so saved me a bit, LS block, bored to 81.5, LS forged probe rods, arp rod bolts and type R pistons, which im am switching to JE's and sleeving the block, ontop of that will be a fully built B16a head, the boost part is just to much to type man, but there ya go.

slodel

when i built my lsvtec i had a 40000 mile ls motor and a p&p b16 head with not to sure valvetrain and type r cams the guy i bought it from said it made power to 13000rpms (more head than i needed) i put the head on the stock ls motor with aebs head studs and dc header and forgot the name if the intake mani but it was a very fun car it reved fast (more compression would of been nice) and pulled hard the motor is still getting revved everyday to this day back in my hometown here is my list of what i would do now

b16 head p&p
ls block stock, if ya got the money 84mm sleeves or b20
type r pistons/cams valvetrain your choice higher compression so it revs quick
head studs
rod bolts
edelbrock intake mani
your choice of header
hondata
half size radiator
air inatke
golden eagle lsvtec kit headgasket and oil line and dowls

here is my d16z6 setup now
d16z6 stock with 176000 miles
home made top mount
3inch down pipe
2.75 exhaust
intercooler
dsm BOV
hondata
rc440s
aireasearch t40 .60a/f
turboxs boost controller
edelbrock performer intake mani
new stock head gasket
arp head studs
exedy stage1 slutch

getting tuned may 16th going for 280 290whp
hoping for mid 12s in my 94 coupe on 22inch M&H slicks

i miss the all motor sound and pull but this should be very fun

whatever you do make sure you research and tune its really really worth it

ctr status

lsvtec! More potential and so much sexier.

Bense

pick a target horsepower, and figure out the cheapest, most feasible way to get to it.

And that's it. End of discussion. But remember, 800whp is just as fast as 400whp on street tires.

Phantastic

boosted single cam motors with stock internals can put down some amazing numbers. it just depends on how the motor is tuned and mods.

Duck*

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good answer mike