chads

why do people convert to ls/vtec or any SIMILAR set up? all i hear is stories of how they blow up in less than a year.

as far as i can tell it is a waste of money.

please change my mind, give me some good stories.


(can't post anymore as of friday)
never heard of a failed ls/vtec?????


Modified by FlamencoEsi at 7:16 AM 12/7/2003

TorganFM

Never heard any of those stories. I have heard in general people blow Honda engines, not specifically the B18B with vtec head.

TurboBumblBee

ive heard good and bad.. it has to be done the correct way.. oil quitters are a must for the vtec head and some other things.. ive never looked into cause i have a b18c1 now, maybe if i blow the bottem end ill look into ls/vtec but for now im ok..

G U E C O

search u will see a lots of pros and cons on ls vtec

gaydm.accord

as far as my knowdledge it only fails through drivers mistakes. i've built both ls and b20 vtec and nothing wrong. i've done a search and usually the problems are floating valves caused by misshifts, and negligence in building motors such as boosting or compression too high with weak valves etc just some problems that i can throw in as of now but i personally dont know ne one thats f'ed up their ls or b20 vtecs if you do a search youll see its common by mis shifts but i think compression is key when building ls or b20 vtec when compression is high theres more you need to look into as far as care.

dont flame or correct grammar typed it up real quick. no time for h-t a-holes

CostcoVTEC

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gaydm.accord

ontop of, weak valves i want to add weak sleeves

chads

thanks guys the question came after my friends b20/vtec blew after being "pro. built" it didnt even last a month.

gaydm.accord

may we ask his setup and how did it blow?

xvietxkhmerxboix

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Would also like to know

civicdragger818

Its only as bad as motor as the builder......

Chrome Pipes

I have had my stock head/stock block LS/VTEC setup on my 99 Si for about four months now. I've run a best of 11.61 @ 120.9. So far there has been no problems with the motor as far as reliability concerns. For a relatively low budget this setup really puts out over & over again. For the full setup click here: http://www.gtrmotorsports.net/bios/jaybio.html

The main reason for putting on an LS block was that I was looking for more torque that the B16A couldn't put down. Also the lower compression

xvietxkhmerxboix

11.61 Nice

gaydm.accord

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damn so thats on stock block and head? gutted? tuned? hack? details please.

would too like to hit 11's

just looked at site i see turbo

no need to reply

distortedfuture

****, i wish just to run like 14's and 13's. you've done some nice work on that engine. i was thinking of a swap like that, but money is hindering that. good luck in your future process.

^jefs0ng

to who ever had their b20 vtec "pro. built".. obviously not.. just cause a shop does it doesn't mean it's professionaly done. I'd consider it pro-done if the person building my motor was a known professional of BUILDING NON-TEC MOTORS/VTEC MOTORS/ETC.. you'd never go to a mopar specific shop [still pros right?] and build a b20vtec and expect it to last..

Chrome Pipes

Modified by Chrome Pipes at 9:07 PM 12/9/2003

NonovUrbizniz

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Or as bad as the driver... the most solidly built motor in the world can be destroyed in a matter of hours in the right (wrong) hands...

chads

well im new to hondas i had a 95gt but all i know is it was a b20vtec with a type r head, i think it was a oil pump problem.

civicdragger818

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Or as bad as the driver... the most solidly built motor in the world can be destroyed in a matter of hours in the right (wrong) hands...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats true too. Some people just suck at keeping a motor reliable.

96tegls

so im also lookin into ls/vtec, as far as driver what do u mean? beating the motor when not warmed up, mishifting, or what? thanks

WongFeihung

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Thats true too. Some people just suck at keeping a motor reliable.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yep, and then they blame the motor itself ...thats how I think most lsVtec set ups gets its bad reputation..pffft..

distortedfuture

what year ls/vtec setup do u guys recommend is the best. what r u guys running.

EKJUNKY80

LS/VTEC

civicdragger818

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yep, and then they blame the motor itself ...thats how I think most lsVtec set ups gets its bad reputation..pffft..</TD></TR></TABLE>

I had a ls-vtec on my old 88' dx civic and it was a good strong motor and believe it or not it was just a stock block ls with a b16 head slapped on it. I know that most people on HT dont think that is a wise decision but if in the hands of a responsible owner the motor can me reliable.