blk_EK

Ok, I thinking about buying an entire LS swap. ECU, axles, wiring harness, mounts, tranny, entire thing. I know a guy that could hook me up with a B16 head. I was thinking of LS/VTEC, but have heard many bad things. But, I might as well anyways considering the deal on the head I am getting. I was also thinking of the possiblility of LS/Turbo because of how much boost I have heard they are capable of holding. So what's a better idea? LS/VTEC or LS/Turbo? It's definitely not staying stock. Or should I do LS/VTEC and save for turbo??
Just looking for sugesstions. Thanks!

oh yea.... what was it that the LS rods were bad after? I heard they absolutely can not spin past 7,000 rpm's. Is it 7,000? or 7,500?? I could deal with a 7500 rpm limit if VTEC kicked in at around 5,500.

doood

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save up and do a boosted lsvtec.

an lsvtec isnt as simple as slapping the head on the block and calling it a day. stock ls rods are pretty strong, it's the rod bolt's that are the weak link and need to be replaced when revving to 8k+.

but if you use forged rods and pistons it's not an issue anymore.

95ProjectEJ1

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The age old question... how much whp are you looking to achieve and how much money do you have to spend?

blk_EK

I'm looking to spend a little under 3 grand. I know the LS engines are the more bang for your buck since they have the most potential. I'm not to crazy about racing, although I was just wondering how long this combination would last. I'm point A to point B driver and mainly weekend.

doood

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reliability is all in the build, tune, and how you treat it

95ProjectEJ1

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blk_EK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm looking to spend a little under 3 grand. I know the LS engines are the more bang for your buck since they have the most potential. I'm not to crazy about racing, although I was just wondering how long this combination would last. I'm point A to point B driver and mainly weekend.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think your best bang for your buck would be a LS-T (IMO), you could piece together a turbo kit with a good tune and have a reliable DD with that extra "umpff" to keep your satisfied.

blk_EK

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95ProjectEJ1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

and have a reliable DD with that extra "umpff" to keep your satisfied. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Good point
I know to make a LS-Vtec you have to do more than just slap on any old B16 head and call it a day. I was just wondering if its more work to do a LS Vtec or install a turbo. I'm not gonna say I'm lazy, but I just want to get the project done and over with.

95ProjectEJ1

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I would like to say that creating a reliable DD Ls/Vtec would take just a little bit more than a Ls-T. You have to tap the oil pan for both, but im pretty sure to make a reliable Ls/Vtec (correct me anyone if im wrong) you will have to possibly get new rods/pistons and you can easily boost low psi on a stock Ls block. Im in the same boat as you, i would love to boost my D, but i would love to have a new car with a warranty. Its hard to keep dumping money into a car that is worth 2.5k(my 95 EJ1) at best.

blk_EK

True that man. I was reading a couple forums and they said that I'd have to take the oil sensor out so I could install the B16 head. I know a couple people around here that have boosted LS engines but they ran into a lot of problems. It overheats to easily and now the cars are garage ******. He replaced the radiator a year ago and the headers look pretty riced out. However, the civic pulls like a beast before it overheats!

blue Eg6

i would prefer an ls turbo.. love Ls/Vtecs though.. but why go thru all that hassle of gettn the head then makn sure everythng is in the right order to be a safe daily driver.. when u can get a turbo kit for less or almost about the price ur gonna end up paying to do a proper ls/v.. newayz just my opinion what eva u do make sure its rite for u an in ur budget

95ProjectEJ1

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Yeah there is something on the block that you have to yank out for Ls/Vtec... has something to do with the oil feed setup *shrugs*. I would think the overheating problem on the LS-T's are just build problems. My buddy boosted his 4dr LS with 130k+ and he hasn't had any overheating problems. If you buy a used LS i would just replace the water pump, timing belt + tensioner, plugs wires and etc while the motor is out. Flush out the cooling system and you should be good to go. A nice radiator would help too.

blk_EK

bump for more imput

DC5_lov3r

when people say lsvtech, are they talking about an integra ls?

doood

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DC5_lov3r &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">when people say lsvtech, are they talking about an integra ls?</TD></TR></TABLE>

1. lsvtec
2. https://honda-tech.com/zerosearch

Syndacate

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DC5_lov3r &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">when people say lsvtech, are they talking about an integra ls?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, they're naming model phones. vtech is a phone company.
http://www.vtech.com/
Go get one, I had a vtech 2-line phone and it lasted 9 years before **** started not working...

With H/A motors, it's VTEC, not vtech.

Though yes, they are speaking of the Integra LS (B18B/A)

@ OP:
LS-T's are fine, of course you're gonna meet the people who think money grows on trees and say LS/VTEC-T but 1k for VTEC isn't worth it unless ur fully building the entire motor for boost IMO.

RIPJemal

I thinking of just building a all motor ls but i need it to be dependable since it going to be my dd i have my 240sx for speed is a ls worth it to build

blk_EK

Its not really gonna be worth it for you to build an all motor LS, since they only have 145ish hps. You can either turn it into a LS-Vtec or LS-T (Turbo). Most people just go turbo just because your torque has already surpassed all the other Honda B-series engines. It all just goes back to what you want to do.

StreetRacinThug

I have a buddy with a LS VTEC Turbo Teg pushing at about 350 WHP at like 12 PSI or sumtin completley stock motor, only thing he has is a low comp. head gasket tuned with SAFC. He explains that he revs to 7500 RPM and has had this build for a year. He is now finally going to get rods and pistons so he can push up to 600 whp. So im so amazed cause the car is sick! I dont understand how the car is stock. He explained to me to go get the Eagle Kit and a B16 head and Low Comp Head gasket with the other gasket kit. Is it really true. He told me the real key is all in fine tuning. I also have an LS with B16 tranny in my car and I dont know what to do. Sorry to OP not stealing your thread jus jumping in for a fellow LSer

jdmpremonition

I say you go with lv-vtec turbo that would be best if you can afford it. I am getting ready to do this motor swap on my EG golden eagle makes a kit specifically for ls-vtec that includes all oil lines, fittings etc. I am also replacing the head studs with arp's. As far as the rods im going to replace the rod bolts and keep stock internals.

lsturboswap

i have a eg with A B18B SWAP I WAS THINKING ABOUT DOING THE LS VTECH THING TO BUT I HEARD ALSO IT WAS A PAIN BECAUSE IT DOESNT JUST SLAP ON YOU HAVE TO DRILL HOLES AND ALL THIS OTHER **** AND THE LS MOTOR BY ITSELF IS MORE RELIABLE

lsturboswap

I AM ALSO GOING TON PUT A TURBO ON MINE AND 8 POUND IS SAFE I HAVE BEEN TOLD

doood

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lsturboswap &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have a eg with A B18B SWAP I WAS THINKING ABOUT DOING THE LS VTECH THING TO BUT I HEARD ALSO IT WAS A PAIN BECAUSE IT DOESNT JUST SLAP ON YOU HAVE TO DRILL HOLES AND ALL THIS OTHER **** AND THE LS MOTOR BY ITSELF IS MORE RELIABLE</TD></TR></TABLE>

try reading the posts above yours

blk_EK

At most, I'm gonna be pushing 9-11psi. I'm only looking for 250hps as a goal. Moneys getting tight. My mom scraped the left side of my car while leaving for work!