Jax99SI

Im looking to buy a LS,GSR, or B16 bottem end to build up on the side.

going in a 99 civic SI,with my b16 head.

Im really looking for websites to read up on them,so if anyone can link websites with facts about them,would be nice,but id like some peoples opinions too.

Im looking for overall WHP,torque would be nice but id rather have the whp.


thanks

vlc92189

look into a poormans type r.. thats what i wanna do, gsr bottom end with type r pistons.. and the good stuff, it puts out good numbers if done right and tuned

Juan_Mitosis

Torque and B16 bottom end don't really coexist. Look into price/reliabilty. Good luck!

Jax99SI

i know a b16 doesnt have torque,i said i wanted whp

take the time to read before you post.

count me out

you know horsepower is a figure of torque, right?

"torque wins races, horsepower sells cars."

Jax99SI

so torque helps you on top end?didnt think so

Jax99SI

Im just trying to see which bottem has the most potential

awdgsx96

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jax99SI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so torque helps you on top end?didnt think so</TD></TR></TABLE>

You're still not looking for horsepower. You're looking for PEAK power.

Horsepower is another measurement of torque.

Jax99SI

mmk cool

so which one has the most potential for being fully built

awdgsx96

Probably GSR. What do you mean by built, resleeved, pistons, headwork, etc?

LS's have strong bottom ends, but would require the vtec conversion kit for the B16 head. GSR's love to spin bearings, that's something to look out for.

And where is the B16 block out of the EM1?

Juan_Mitosis

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jax99SI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im looking to buy a LS,GSR, or B16 bottem end to build up on the side.

Im looking for overall WHP,torque would be nice but id rather have the whp.


thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jax99SI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i know a b16 doesnt have torque,i said i wanted whp

take the time to read before you post.
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I own a B16, and its' stock, not fully built. I replied based on my knowledge. Like every other H-T member would do, so that all in all you end up with enough knowledge to form your answer. Thanks for your suggestion, but I don't need it.

And as I said before, good luck on your build-to-be.

Jax99SI

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by awdgsx96 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Probably GSR. What do you mean by built, resleeved, pistons, headwork, etc?

LS's have strong bottom ends, but would require the vtec conversion kit for the B16 head. GSR's love to spin bearings, that's something to look out for.

And where is the B16 block out of the EM1? </TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah out of my em1

jdmdikk

i am in the same position of changing the bottom end on my b16 motor ..i decided to go with a ls block and just keeping my b16 head..so which block has more tork..a ls or gsr block?

awdgsx96

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If you decided to go with the LS why even ask about the GSR? A block itself doesn't dictate power 100%, the internals and map compose it as well. If you already have a B16 head, why not go with the GSR? Sure, you could do an LS/VTEC, but they usually run into reliablity issues.

Search LS, GSR, B18B/C, etc.

awdgsx96

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yeah out of my em1</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm asking what happened to the block that you don't have it anymore or why you're not using it?

Jax99SI

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I'm asking what happened to the block that you don't have it anymore or why you're not using it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I want to build up a bottom end on the side,then when its fully built put it in,nothing wrong with my current b16 bottom end,illl sell it when i finish my new ls/gsr or b16.

awdgsx96

Ok, so when you say build, you mean the whole nine yards right?