lowering spring question
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Re: lowering spring question
There too soft. They lower the car a good amount, almost 2'', but have a very soft spring rate for the amount they drop.
With a proper shock they will ride great.
Due to the spring rates, they wouldn't be my first choice.
With a proper shock they will ride great.
Due to the spring rates, they wouldn't be my first choice.
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Re: lowering spring question
springs in general will be 'softer' then linear coilovers/sleeves
this will preserve smooth ride quality for the most part. Just make sure you have a good shortened stroke shock paired with it
this will preserve smooth ride quality for the most part. Just make sure you have a good shortened stroke shock paired with it
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Re: lowering spring question
Unless you get some real soft linear coils, in the 250lb range...
Most lowering springs start softer then that, and end stiffer then that. Thats why you can have a soft ride w/o bottoming out (because they stiffen up when the car rolls)
Most lowering springs start softer then that, and end stiffer then that. Thats why you can have a soft ride w/o bottoming out (because they stiffen up when the car rolls)
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Re: lowering spring question
Here is an example of the spring rates for a Skunk2 lowering spring
’94-’01 Integra spring rates:
Front Spring Rate (Tender / Main): 173 lb-in / 520 lb-in
Rear Spring Rate (Tender / Main): 106 lb-in / 291 lb-in
Drop (Front / Rear): 2.0” / 1.8”
Note: 1 lb-in = 0.0179 kg/mm
’96-’00 Civic spring rates:
Front Spring Rate (Tender / Main): 173 lb-in / 520 lb-in
Rear Spring Rate (Tender / Main): 106 lb-in / 291 lb-in
Drop (Front / Rear): 2.2” / 2.0”
Note: 1 lb-in = 0.0179 kg/mm
so DD will feel smooth, but when you hit a hard bump or turn, the spring stiffens up and prevents bottoming out.
by comparison OEM springs for a 96-00 are some where in the 180/80lb range front and rear (as far as their stiffest point)
’94-’01 Integra spring rates:
Front Spring Rate (Tender / Main): 173 lb-in / 520 lb-in
Rear Spring Rate (Tender / Main): 106 lb-in / 291 lb-in
Drop (Front / Rear): 2.0” / 1.8”
Note: 1 lb-in = 0.0179 kg/mm
’96-’00 Civic spring rates:
Front Spring Rate (Tender / Main): 173 lb-in / 520 lb-in
Rear Spring Rate (Tender / Main): 106 lb-in / 291 lb-in
Drop (Front / Rear): 2.2” / 2.0”
Note: 1 lb-in = 0.0179 kg/mm
so DD will feel smooth, but when you hit a hard bump or turn, the spring stiffens up and prevents bottoming out.
by comparison OEM springs for a 96-00 are some where in the 180/80lb range front and rear (as far as their stiffest point)
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Re: lowering spring question
Speak to Skunk2 springs and not ALL springs when you say that most are softer. Most are not.
Here's a more comprehensive list of springs from this link. http://www.clubcivic.com/board/showthread.php?t=68904
P=Progressive. L=Linear.
96-00 EX factory 165F/80R (P/P)
99-00 Si (EM1) factory 201F/99.8R (P/P)
CTR factory 240/240 (L/P)
APEX'i WS 447F/178R
Eibach ProKit 290F/190R (P/P)
Eibach Sportline 310F/275R (P/P)
Gold-line GL 2.5" drop 320/190 (P/P)
Gold-line GPS 1.25" drop 275/160 (P/P)
Ground Control Coilover 380F/280R (P/P)*
H&R OE 280F/190R (P/P)
H&R Sport 330F/280R (P/P)
JIC FLT-A2s (USDM) 504F/336R (L/L)
Koni RSK Suspension kit 154-205/270 (P/L)
Neuspeed SofSports 260F/150R (P/P)
Neuspeed Sport 280F/180R (P/P)
Neuspeed Race 485F/395R
Omni-Power Adjustable Sleeve Coilover 448F/336R (L/L)*
Omni-Power Street Coilovers 448F/336R (L/L)*
Omni-Power Sport Coilovers 539F/448R (L/L)*
Omni-Power Drag Coilover 810F/810R (L/L)*
Omni-Power 6-Way Damping Coilovers 539/448/336 (L)*
Progress Coilovers 350F/250R (P/P)
Progress Lowering Springs 320F/200R (P/P)
SkunkWerks Coilovers (old) 400F/300R (L/L)
Skunk2 Coilovers (new) 500F/400r (L/L)
Spoon Full Coilovers 300/240
SSR Cup 392/280
SSR S1 448/448
Suspension Techniques 10-15% more then stock (P/P)
Tanabe DF-210 10-15% more then stock
Tanabe NF-210 5-10% more then stock
Tein HT 1119F/448R (L/L)
Tein HG 365F/129-196R (L/P)
Tein SS 448F/224R
Tein Flex 504F/280R
Tein RA/RE/RS 783F/559R (L/L)
Tein S. Tech 235F/140R
Tokico Illumina Kit 250/123 (P/P)
Here's a more comprehensive list of springs from this link. http://www.clubcivic.com/board/showthread.php?t=68904
P=Progressive. L=Linear.
96-00 EX factory 165F/80R (P/P)
99-00 Si (EM1) factory 201F/99.8R (P/P)
CTR factory 240/240 (L/P)
APEX'i WS 447F/178R
Eibach ProKit 290F/190R (P/P)
Eibach Sportline 310F/275R (P/P)
Gold-line GL 2.5" drop 320/190 (P/P)
Gold-line GPS 1.25" drop 275/160 (P/P)
Ground Control Coilover 380F/280R (P/P)*
H&R OE 280F/190R (P/P)
H&R Sport 330F/280R (P/P)
JIC FLT-A2s (USDM) 504F/336R (L/L)
Koni RSK Suspension kit 154-205/270 (P/L)
Neuspeed SofSports 260F/150R (P/P)
Neuspeed Sport 280F/180R (P/P)
Neuspeed Race 485F/395R
Omni-Power Adjustable Sleeve Coilover 448F/336R (L/L)*
Omni-Power Street Coilovers 448F/336R (L/L)*
Omni-Power Sport Coilovers 539F/448R (L/L)*
Omni-Power Drag Coilover 810F/810R (L/L)*
Omni-Power 6-Way Damping Coilovers 539/448/336 (L)*
Progress Coilovers 350F/250R (P/P)
Progress Lowering Springs 320F/200R (P/P)
SkunkWerks Coilovers (old) 400F/300R (L/L)
Skunk2 Coilovers (new) 500F/400r (L/L)
Spoon Full Coilovers 300/240
SSR Cup 392/280
SSR S1 448/448
Suspension Techniques 10-15% more then stock (P/P)
Tanabe DF-210 10-15% more then stock
Tanabe NF-210 5-10% more then stock
Tein HT 1119F/448R (L/L)
Tein HG 365F/129-196R (L/P)
Tein SS 448F/224R
Tein Flex 504F/280R
Tein RA/RE/RS 783F/559R (L/L)
Tein S. Tech 235F/140R
Tokico Illumina Kit 250/123 (P/P)
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Re: lowering spring question
/\ thanks for the google list bro /\
but those numbers only show the max rate of the springs, not the range.
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when i say they are softer I am referring to ANY lowering springs vs a linear coil over spring in the 6,8,10k range.
simply because for the most part their initial load will be softer.
running say the front S2 spring which varies from 173-520lb/s... most of the time it'll feel like a 300 ish lb spring
Where as if your running a 8K or 10K linear spring it ALWAYS feels like 450-540lb's, thats much stiffer.
but those numbers only show the max rate of the springs, not the range.
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when i say they are softer I am referring to ANY lowering springs vs a linear coil over spring in the 6,8,10k range.
simply because for the most part their initial load will be softer.
running say the front S2 spring which varies from 173-520lb/s... most of the time it'll feel like a 300 ish lb spring
Where as if your running a 8K or 10K linear spring it ALWAYS feels like 450-540lb's, thats much stiffer.
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Re: lowering spring question
Well as it pertains to the OP questions NONE of our responses matter since the question was too open ended. We don't know how the car will be used or how low it will be dropped.
As a matter of fact it has no tech in it whatsoever.
As a matter of fact it has no tech in it whatsoever.
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