deviant1

i have GC coilovers and lowered my car a little today. only 2.25 turns of the collar so nothing major. i have exactly no wheel gap now. the tire meets the fender perfectly (16 in rims). i also lowered the back of the car 3 turns of the collar. there is still a slight gap. my questions is, how do you guys get rid of your wheel gap and not have the suspension resting on the bumpstops? my front is on the bumpstops but my rear have a little travel left. how do you do it?

edit - my bumpstops are cut already

1 point 6

Did you cut your bumpstops in half?

edit - saw edit of the edit.

JforJonathan

i trimmed my bumpstops in half

deviant1

they are trimmed

deviant1

maybe longer springs?

how come true coilovers can lower a car really low and still have suspension travel?

92b16vx

An important question would be, what shocks and spring rates are you using? I am halfway down the collar in the rear, and still have gap, and travel. I can see how three turns is getting you that low.

deviant1

im on tokico illuminas with off the shelf civic spring rates from ground control. its just weird how my rear still has travel but my front is on bumpstops. maybe if i cut the bumpstops more? would that make them too weak and they end up tearing? ive seen many ppl on here with 16s and tucking. how do you guys do it without riding on bumpstops?

92b16vx

My front tire is even on the fender, (well about half an inch lower), I am on Illuminas too, but have 400's in the front

AlphaQup

Cut the bumpstops more homey. You only need at least 1" bumpstops. Try that and see how it sits afterwards. I got the same setup as you do and mine sits perfect. Mine are all cut to 1" all around.

deviant1

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hows your suspension travel? how much of the strut rod can you see when the car is on the ground?

AlphaQup

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hows your suspension travel? how much of the strut rod can you see when the car is on the ground?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm not sure how much of the rod I can see, because I never bothered looking. But, if it helps... here is my ride height :

As you can see, there is little to no wheel gap.
I always take my friends around town w/ 4 passengers (3 in the back) and it rides like a champ.

deviant1

is it bouncy or real firm?

AlphaQup

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not bouncy at all. I set the setting to 1 (I think) for the softest setting. Or is it 4? It's too late right now so I'm not gonna go look, but it rides perfect to me. I wouldn't say its firm because its too soft, but if you want firm... just adjust your settings on the illuminas.

Tad

even if you removed the bumpstops completely, at a drop that takes you down to the fender(0 gap) you're going to bottom out.

there are a few tricks i've used, and always recommend that will give you back prettymuch all the travel you need.

first off, you can lower the bottom of the shock further into the damper fork, with iluminas, you need to remove the brakeline bracket, then you can dropem down as far as you want.
add a metal pipe as a washer cut to fit sitting inbetween the damperfork and shock

also you can extend your strut mounts...

all works well.

theres a post on how to do this exactly around here somewhere.. do a search for "travel"

AlphaQup

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Either your talking from your own personal experience only, or you dont watch where you drive... I have never bottomed out before. No top-hats or strut modification done.

95hb

how come true coilovers can lower a car really low and still have suspension travel?

because true coilovers have a shortend strut rod. when you use the other type you still have the stock strut meant for stock travel and when its lowered the strutrod is too long causing it to bottom out in the housing(which is what i ran into on both of my crx's)

slammed_93_hatch

not true.

i have suspension travel still in my car and its really low, granted i have higher springs rates but i cut my bumb stops really really small.

deviant1

whats the smallest you can cut them and still have them be 100% functional?

JDMlyfestyle

i believe 3/4" is the absolute minimum. id stick to 1" to play it safe

deviant1

just so i kno, how can you tell what sleeves are supposed to go in the front or rear with what springs? ive had these in for more than a year and im sure they are in right. i just want to make sure because everyone doesnt seem to have a problem with lowering their car and being on bumpstops.

i was thinking of swapping the front springs to the back since the back is not on the bumpstops. but that wouldnt work cause of the specific spring rates. damn. oh well.

slammed_93_hatch

the front sleeve's have no or little unthreaded part. the rears have about 1.5 inchs of non threaded area on the sleeve.

deviant1

maybe some different struts would help? i was looking into some kyb agx

Tad

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Either your talking from your own personal experience only, or you dont watch where you drive... I have never bottomed out before. No top-hats or strut modification done. </TD></TR></TABLE>

do you know what I mean by bottom out?

i dont mean the bottom of your car touching the ground

AlphaQup

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do you know what I mean by bottom out?

i dont mean the bottom of your car touching the ground</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes... I know what you mean man. If I had to explain it,
"A good example would be when you don't watch where your driving, and hit a pothole/speedbump, which forces the A-arm/s in the front to hit the wheel well. Or, if you had 16"+ wheels, your wheels whould hit the wheel wells."

92b16vx

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AlphaQup &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes... I know what you mean man. If I had to explain it,
"A good example would be when you don't watch where your driving, and hit a pothole/speedbump, which forces the A-arm/s in the front to hit the wheel well. Or, if you had 16"+ wheels, your wheels whould hit the wheel wells." </TD></TR></TABLE>
Pretty sure he is talking about bottoming out the shock, compressing the piston as far as it can go inside the shock body.