Zx

hey, just got my swap 99 civic b16a into my 97 EK and it is runing now and i want to make it BARD, But it is missing the EVAP canister,

I want someone to confirm this for me,

Do I need the 99 Si canister and those EVAP crap or I can use those stock one on my 97 civic hatch in order to pass smog?

thanks

GiMpInThaCiv

Glad i live in Mn and dont have to worry about this, i hear its a real **** have fun, best of luck

Marauder

You need the B16 canister, unless yours is the same that comes with the B16.

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Just wait until they pass federal emissions laws that make every state follow California's rules. I will laugh so hard when they do, and it will come with time. Then everyone will have to make their cars legal.

ED9man

Massachusetts is exempting everything not OBD2 in october.

ridin98civic

it will come in time yea in about 50 years when we are all done modding cars and have grandkids running through the house.

Zx

so it is the civic si B16 canister then right ?

thank you.


this emission stuff is pain in the ***, i spend so much time trying to look for the right part, and they are not cheap too.

alacard

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no. by that time we wont be able to even drive gas-powered vehicles because our climate will be so fvcked up.

Braco11

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Zx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so it is the civic si B16 canister then right ?

this emission stuff is pain in the ***, i spend so much time trying to look for the right part, and they are not cheap too.</TD></TR></TABLE>

your ex canister might be the same. you should check the part numbers (www.hondaautomotiveparts.com)

Good luck with the process. Just got my h22 BAR'd...it was a pain, but well worth it

Zx

I checked, Ex and Si are the same,

but my car is 97 civic hatchback, so i have to buy EVAP stuff for 99-00 civic si/ex.

I am pretty sure what i need now.

thank you guys.

curb

Tell us how it went.

SmogKing

97' or 99' it doesn't matter, as long as it's there. When we perform a smog check we do three things, emissions-visual-&functional. if the canister is there, your good. We don't check for year it is. if your using the 99' canister just make sure it doesn't set a CEL.

Mario_D

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SmoGuy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">97' or 99' it doesn't matter, as long as it's there. When we perform a smog check we do three things, emissions-visual-&functional. if the canister is there, your good. We don't check for year it is. if your using the 99' canister just make sure it doesn't set a CEL. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Not sure if you are a Ref station or just a smog station, know that a Ref station will have a team of techs looking over your car.

I had my car BAR'd several years ago and it went under the proverbial "knife". There was one lead tech and 3 support techs. As long as you retain your emissions from your car you should be fine. Also, if there is additional emissions that are not on the car but are on the new engine, be advised to put that in as well.

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SmogKing

One more thing, don't waste your time taking your car to a referee. Your car is legal as long as you stay within the engine size it came that year, your good. The civics came only in the b16, if you had a 2001 civic and wanted to swap a b16 then your gonna need a BAR label on it. If your upsize (B18,B20 H22) or downgrade then your gonna need to see a ref.

Mario_D

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SmoGuy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">One more thing, don't waste your time taking your car to a referee. Your car is legal as long as you stay within the engine size it came that year, your good. The civics came only in the b16, if you had a 2001 civic and wanted to swap a b16 then your gonna need a BAR label on it. If your upsize (B18,B20 H22) or downgrade then your gonna need to see a ref.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't believe the 1997 EK model that the OP is reffering to came equipped with the b16. If that is the case, OP will need to take the car to the reffing station due to the change of engine in the car.

Having the car BAR'd after an engine change will benefit the OP in terms of less legal issues when the car is ever inspected. Also the terms used by the ref station are as follows:

Engine Swap = Same engine/Same year
Engine Change = Different engine/Newer year

m-

alacard

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Engine Swap = Same engine/Same year
Engine Change = Different engine/Newer year
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Isn't it:
Engine Change = different engine/same or newer year?

Zx

i got those in mind, i am allocating parts now.
thank you all for the help.

Mario_D

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Isn't it:
Engine Change = different engine/same or newer year?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes. You are correct.

Engine change = different engine/SAME or newer year.

m-

cltitus

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Marauder &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You need the B16 canister, unless yours is the same that comes with the B16.

Just wait until they pass federal emissions laws that make every state follow California's rules. I will laugh so hard when they do, and it will come with time. Then everyone will have to make their cars legal. </TD></TR></TABLE>

if it does pass then that just means all cars from the date that it passed on will be illegal its called a grandfather claus. if its already dont to the car before it was illegalized its still legal but you cannot mod the car anymore unless you change to new emissions.