LCA bolt question
04-11-2005, 09:37 AM
#1
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: NOVA, Va, USA
Posts: 664
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
LCA bolt question
When replacing the rear shocks ..... people always say they break the head off of the 10x84 bolt....
My question is .... why not just either drill out the nut on the other side or grind off the nut with a cutting wheel, take a impact wrench to the bolt that is left to loosen it from the bushing and punch the bolt through?
this my be a simple question but I have not seen anyone start by doing that in the searches I have done ....
My question is .... why not just either drill out the nut on the other side or grind off the nut with a cutting wheel, take a impact wrench to the bolt that is left to loosen it from the bushing and punch the bolt through?
this my be a simple question but I have not seen anyone start by doing that in the searches I have done ....
04-11-2005, 09:58 AM
#3
Mr. Badwrench
Join Date: May 2002
Location: stranger in a strange land
Posts: 14,146
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
Re: LCA bolt question (rdaggett)
not to be ignorant, but you havent fought one yet have you? when they seize on there is no breaking them. and they are hardened so they will chew up drill bits. the last time i swapped out my shocks and springs, i had to cut off the lower strut fork, and drive out the bushing and install a new bushing.
04-11-2005, 10:09 AM
#5
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: NOVA, Va, USA
Posts: 664
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: LCA bolt question (boostedcivicsir)
You are corrent I have not done it yet .... planning on doing it this weekend ....
there is no way of knocking the bolt through the bushing and reusing the original bushing?
there is no way of knocking the bolt through the bushing and reusing the original bushing?
04-11-2005, 10:13 AM
#6
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: NOVA, Va, USA
Posts: 664
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (b204dr)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b204dr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my bolt out kit gets it out every time - tho you need a new bolt every time </TD></TR></TABLE>
What is that and where do I get it? bolts are no prob to replace .... but that bushing is a pain in the *** to get out and put back in as I dont have a bushing press .....
What is that and where do I get it? bolts are no prob to replace .... but that bushing is a pain in the *** to get out and put back in as I dont have a bushing press .....
Trending Topics
04-11-2005, 10:33 AM
#9
Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: PA
Posts: 796
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (b204dr)
as previously mentioned drilling the bolt is laughable it will destroy the bit. when that bolt is stuck the head will shear off before it breaks free.
also the bolt out kit in my experience is useless with this particular problem. I bought it and took it back afer it proved useless with the lca bolt (the bits were getting destroyed).
As a side note my car took a little hit on the side I had problems with so mine was likely more stuck than your average lca bolt.
also the bolt out kit in my experience is useless with this particular problem. I bought it and took it back afer it proved useless with the lca bolt (the bits were getting destroyed).
As a side note my car took a little hit on the side I had problems with so mine was likely more stuck than your average lca bolt.
04-11-2005, 10:34 AM
#10
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: 239
Posts: 614
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (rdaggett)
couple of options/hints..
spray them real generously with some P & B Blaster a couple of days b4 you decide to do it. Make sure you spray it where the bolt actually goes through the bushing. If the bolt freezes to the bushing it will actually ruin the bushing by spinning the rubber out from the sleeve that the bushing runs thru. You'll think you actually loosened the bolt, but its actually spinning the rubber with it. (then you need new bushings.
buy a couple extra bolts from honda in the event that they do break (only a few dollars), and it won't hurt to put new ones in anyway even if you don't break them.
If one does freeze you can cut the bolt with a sawzall and apply some heat, and try to hammer it out in a vice, carefully without ruining the bushing.
If you ruin a bushing you will most likely need a press to get the new one back in.
I actually bent the handle on my vice trying to press it in myself. A hammer/ mallet is not recommend because you are more likely to do more dammage then you started with..
i just did them last weekend on my 00si and only one gave me a problem P & B and some patience, it ended up coming out without wrecking it. You can alwas trying tapping the head of the bolt with a hammer after you sprayed it to jar the bolt loose from the sleeve of the bushing too!!
good luck mang
spray them real generously with some P & B Blaster a couple of days b4 you decide to do it. Make sure you spray it where the bolt actually goes through the bushing. If the bolt freezes to the bushing it will actually ruin the bushing by spinning the rubber out from the sleeve that the bushing runs thru. You'll think you actually loosened the bolt, but its actually spinning the rubber with it. (then you need new bushings.
buy a couple extra bolts from honda in the event that they do break (only a few dollars), and it won't hurt to put new ones in anyway even if you don't break them.
If one does freeze you can cut the bolt with a sawzall and apply some heat, and try to hammer it out in a vice, carefully without ruining the bushing.
If you ruin a bushing you will most likely need a press to get the new one back in.
I actually bent the handle on my vice trying to press it in myself. A hammer/ mallet is not recommend because you are more likely to do more dammage then you started with..
i just did them last weekend on my 00si and only one gave me a problem P & B and some patience, it ended up coming out without wrecking it. You can alwas trying tapping the head of the bolt with a hammer after you sprayed it to jar the bolt loose from the sleeve of the bushing too!!
good luck mang
04-11-2005, 10:40 AM
#11
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: NOVA, Va, USA
Posts: 664
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (b204dr)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b204dr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">check sears- its a craftsman tool tho there are generic versions ! </TD></TR></TABLE>
http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr...38000
http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr...38000
04-11-2005, 10:43 AM
#12
Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: WW 05 evolutionIII, MN, USA
Posts: 590
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr...CRAFT
not the drill type ! its just like a socket works wonders with its teeth - trust me it wont break- tho over time teeth do die but thats why craftsman has lifetime warranty
not the drill type ! its just like a socket works wonders with its teeth - trust me it wont break- tho over time teeth do die but thats why craftsman has lifetime warranty
04-11-2005, 10:47 AM
#16
Re: (rdaggett)
what i do, is get an angle grinder, and cut the bolt from both sides of the U on the strut, then the lca will be free.
take a pair of pliers or vise grips and remove the remaining bolt from the strut.
then take the lca to the machine shop to press in and out the new bushing.
take a pair of pliers or vise grips and remove the remaining bolt from the strut.
then take the lca to the machine shop to press in and out the new bushing.
04-11-2005, 10:48 AM
#17
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: NOVA, Va, USA
Posts: 664
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (b204dr)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b204dr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea if enough is still sticking out - it has teeth that dig into metal! </TD></TR></TABLE>
Hey thanks for the info everyone
Hey thanks for the info everyone
04-11-2005, 10:51 AM
#19
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: NOVA, Va, USA
Posts: 664
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (b204dr)
I am in Northern Va and the car was originally owner in NJ ..... so all the salt they use on the east coast I am sure I will have some issues ....
Oh and my luck is about the worst so I am sure something will happen.
Oh and my luck is about the worst so I am sure something will happen.
04-11-2005, 04:15 PM
#21
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: NOVA, Va, USA
Posts: 664
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (deLasoL7)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by deLasoL7 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">when i purchase integra LCA's to fit on my del sol. will i (more than likely) experience this?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes since the LCA bushings and bolts are the same design
Yes since the LCA bushings and bolts are the same design
04-11-2005, 08:52 PM
#23
Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: PA
Posts: 796
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (b204dr)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b204dr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr...CRAFT
not the drill type ! its just like a socket works wonders with its teeth - trust me it wont break- tho over time teeth do die but thats why craftsman has lifetime warranty </TD></TR></TABLE>
thats what sheared the head off my bolt, it definitely grabs like hell thats for sure...the damn bolt head wouldn't come out of the thing til i smashed it on the ground a couple times
no idea !
not the drill type ! its just like a socket works wonders with its teeth - trust me it wont break- tho over time teeth do die but thats why craftsman has lifetime warranty </TD></TR></TABLE>
thats what sheared the head off my bolt, it definitely grabs like hell thats for sure...the damn bolt head wouldn't come out of the thing til i smashed it on the ground a couple times
no idea !
04-12-2005, 03:24 AM
#24
Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: WW 05 evolutionIII, MN, USA
Posts: 590
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
dunno i never have chewed a head off- and i have had some pretty bad bolts ! - The worst bolt it took out was from a rusted as 69 camaro being restored which had been sitting outside threw winters for 40 ish years ! and it took the bolt out with out snapping the head off . All i can suggest in this area is dont exert to much force all at once push a little and let it go push harder and let it give eventually the siezing of the bolt gives out
04-12-2005, 05:42 AM
#25
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: NOVA, Va, USA
Posts: 664
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (b204dr)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b204dr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dunno i never have chewed a head off- and i have had some pretty bad bolts ! - The worst bolt it took out was from a rusted as 69 camaro being restored which had been sitting outside threw winters for 40 ish years ! and it took the bolt out with out snapping the head off . All i can suggest in this area is dont exert to much force all at once push a little and let it go push harder and let it give eventually the siezing of the bolt gives out </TD></TR></TABLE>
How about an impact gun at low PSI and then increase a little .... a little more ..... a little more .... until it breaks free?
How about an impact gun at low PSI and then increase a little .... a little more ..... a little more .... until it breaks free?