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Old 11-13-2004, 06:07 PM
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Default Last run of the season. turbo SOHC times, do they look right?

ok just got done at milan dragway in michigan for there last run of the season. and was both happy and dissapointed in the times. tell me what you think

92 eg hatch full interior
225k d16z6 stock internals
saab 900 turbo .42 .48 boosting @ 10.7lbs consistant
ssautochrome headers
tial 38mm wastegate
open downpipe
JCR 5" intercooler w/ mandrel bend piping
greddy BOV
hondata s200b stock NA base map *UNTUNED*
*DRAG RADIALS @ 9psi*

First run: bogged on launch... but pulled like hell at top end



Second run: launched like a stunna! but shifting into 4th gear blew off a charge piping coupling...



do these seem to be consistant with all other SOHC turbo setups boosting @ 10psi untuned? it seems kinda slow to me...
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Default Re: Last run of the season. turbo SOHC times, do they look right? (Steeze)

hmm... those dont look right to me. Are you getting full boost when you race? I think you got alot of leaks.
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Default Re: Last run of the season. turbo SOHC times, do they look right? (Steeze)

i have seen a t3 .42/.48 @ 9psi hit 14.3, so i am not sure. how was the track condition?
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Default Re: Last run of the season. turbo SOHC times, do they look right? (Steeze)

.........u need to learn how to drive...any traction issues? cuz trap speed at 98, u should be low 14s buddy.........
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track was sticky due to a gamblers race going on in between test and tune. also it was cold like 40 degrees out. it was there last day of the season so they preped it baller style...

no leaks hondalogger datalogging logged 10.7 cosistantly in the map sensor. :-]
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Default Re: Last run of the season. turbo SOHC times, do they look right? (Steeze)

60ft needs some improvement. like he mentioned, that 98 trap is good for high 13s low 14s.
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Default Re: Last run of the season. turbo SOHC times, do they look right? (Civicr2gs5)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Civicr2gs5 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> .........u need to learn how to drive...any traction issues? cuz trap speed at 98, u should be low 14s buddy.........</TD></TR></TABLE>

it was my first time running this car at the track :-p ...no traction issues at all the d/r hooked perfect... so i dunno...
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Default Re: Last run of the season. turbo SOHC times, do they look right? (Steeze)

d/r? drag radials? well you should be cutting 2.0-2.1 60 ft.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Steeze &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
no leaks hondalogger datalogging logged 10.7 cosistantly in the map sensor. :-]</TD></TR></TABLE>

Somethings seriously wrong then. Try a compression test, then just get it tuned.
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compression is fine 180 190 190 180... any other idea
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Whats your fuel set up?

After that just get it tuned man, thats all i could think of.
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stock injectors, stock fuel pump, stock everything fuel... 94 octane... the logger did say the injector duty was at 100% durring boost... i think i just reallllly need a tune...

p.s. my g/f thinks your mean ;-)
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what coupler and clamps were you running?
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Default Re: Last run of the season. turbo SOHC times, do they look right? (Steeze)

try going to http://www.turbod16.com, they'll prob figure out your problem since they are turbo'd single cams too...
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Default Re: Last run of the season. turbo SOHC times, do they look right? (mienboiracer209)

your 60 foot times suck no offence ive run worse
get them to at least a 2.2 and then well see
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Default Re: Last run of the season. turbo SOHC times, do they look right? (mienboiracer209)

You can definately hook better than a 2.3-2.5 60ft, esp. with drag radials. I can even pull a 2.2 60ft with street tires..well, sometimes. Try to get your 60ft time down next season and you should be seeing faster ETs.. probably low 14s.

I hit the same ETs you did and I'm only boosting 5.5psi on my D16Z6 Coupe. I pulled a 2.5 60ft and trapped 94mph.. so I say you should definately be faster since you're trapping 98mph. You can usually guestimate what your ETs should be by looking at your trap speed. Just practice your launch.. good luck.
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Default Re: Last run of the season. turbo SOHC times, do they look right? (Steeze)

i was at Maryland International Raceway last weekend for imports vs. domestics and i saw a 92 hatch with the exact same set up as you stock internals and boosted 9psi run an 11.5 . . . so id venture to say theres somtin wrong. But ill never knock a singlecam! you gotta love um!

good luck!
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Default Re: Last run of the season. turbo SOHC times, do they look right? (allmotorjdism)

Using the ET method, I come up with 142 horsepower
Using the Speed method, I come up with 173 horsepower

at 2350 lbs
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yo def work on the 60ft that should help alot, you'll see
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Default Re: Last run of the season. turbo SOHC times, do they look right? (allmotorjdism)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by allmotorjdism &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i was at Maryland International Raceway last weekend for imports vs. domestics and i saw a 92 hatch with the exact same set up as you stock internals and boosted 9psi run an 11.5 . . . so id venture to say theres somtin wrong. But ill never knock a singlecam! you gotta love um!

good luck!</TD></TR></TABLE>

If he's running 11.5 then I wouldn't say the set-up is the "exact same". This guy's not even trapping anywhere near an 11-second ET.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92 CIVIC HATCH VX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Using the ET method, I come up with 142 horsepower
Using the Speed method, I come up with 173 horsepower

at 2350 lbs</TD></TR></TABLE>

BTW, that's not really accurate. I tried it before.
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Default Re: Last run of the season. turbo SOHC times, do they look right? (_Project EJOne)

first i'd like to say thank everyone very much... constructive criticism is the best... yes i know i need to get 60' lower...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92 CIVIC HATCH VX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Using the ET method, I come up with 142 horsepower
Using the Speed method, I come up with 173 horsepower

at 2350 lbs</TD></TR></TABLE>

WTF? how do you come up with that? what math did you use to calc. that? seems VERY off... but yet again i am no math-genius

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by allmotorjdism &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i was at Maryland International Raceway last weekend for imports vs. domestics and i saw a 92 hatch with the exact same set up as you stock internals and boosted 9psi run an 11.5 . . . so id venture to say theres somtin wrong. But ill never knock a singlecam! you gotta love um!

good luck!</TD></TR></TABLE>
seems too good to be true :sigh:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by oxSLEEPERxo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what coupler and clamps were you running? </TD></TR></TABLE>
silicone with zip ties, just kidding, i am using pipe clamps... i guesss i should get some more heavy duty ones, boosting on the highway always pops the same one off :-\

all in all i think i need to get a really good tune, and work on launching... then this thing could yeild mid 13's... or somthing... thanks again all...
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Default Re: Last run of the season. turbo SOHC times, do they look right? (Steeze)

glad to see the ecu works... When are you going to pay me for it????
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Default Re: Last run of the season. turbo SOHC times, do they look right? (Steeze)

I say for ONE, get it tuned and TWO try running it then.

ALSO Pay MADEINIRAQ!
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