ph0shizzle

alright well i just baught some used koni yellow shocks. i heard i have to use special ground control coilovers/skunk2 or eibach springs. but the question is i baught my shocks used and the pressure is still good and everything but the guy told me it was complete, but im just wondering if its normal that its missing that one lil metal piece in the middle of each strut that holds the coilover/springs. heres a pic of how they look like. jus wanna make sure before i buy anything

EL Vap133

Do you mean the shock boot?

Sleepy_Red_hatch

i think you need to use the spring cups from your stock shocks? i duno, i got mine pre-assembled with oem top hats and H&R race springs

ph0shizzle

oh so all i need to do is take the cups off my stock shocks? will it work and fit?

EK k kay

No. You can't take those cups off. You need The Koni snap rings and the spring cups.

ph0shizzle

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EK k kay &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No. You can't take those cups off. You need The Koni snap rings and the spring cups.</TD></TR></TABLE>
damn so i gotta buy those seperate huh do they even sell em seperately?

EK k kay

They probably do. http://www.koni-na.com

ph0shizzle

damn. do u think its even worth it anymore then? or should i jus sell these

chrisw85

you are missing the spring seats if you plan on using springs (with the GC they fit right over the circlip)

also the shaft bushing collar, it goes inside of the rubber bushings at the top of the shock shaft/tophat. The stock ones wont fit around the bigger diameter koni shaft.

ph0shizzle

so no matter if i use GC or eibach springs or anythin it still wont work?

chrisw85

you just need to buy some additional hardware, shouldn't cost more than $40 i would think.

ph0shizzle

but where can i get those parts at??

Agent_EM1

Well if the person you are buying them from is the original owner, ask that person if he/she has the receipt so you can call Koni. I have a friend that purchased his kit used off ebay and it was missing something. He had the original receipt and contacted Koni, they gave him the perches he needed. Hope that's some help. You could also get lucky and try craigslist or ebay to see if anyone might be dumping their "spare parts" for sale.

instrument

if you're talking about the spring perches, i never used mine....im me and you can have em for a couple bucks..

now if you're getting ground controls the are kept on by small metal rings....it looks like they are on the shock to me... see where the indentations are near the koni sticker, its a little metal ring that goes in there...thats what the perch sits on...

if you have that little ring thats all you need.

Mr Hammond

Before you go off buying anything, what do you want to use with these shocks?

If you want to use stock springs or aftermarket progressive rate springs (Eibach, H&R etc...), you will have to purchase the slip on spring perches that sit on the snap ring. Sorry your stock ones are spot welded to the shocks. They are not meant to be removed.

If you want to turn you Koni's into coil overs, you can actually buy the adjustable spring perches right from Koni, which is what I did, and then you can buy any 2.5" Linear rate spring (Eibach ERS, Hypercoil etc...) in what ever length or spring rate you choose. Ended up being cheaper then buying Ground-Control's and better customer service.

Bakeoff

Mr Hammond nailed it on the head. The GC's collar will slip down over the shock and sit on that snap right and have a little indentation so the snap ring can't expand once the collar is slid down all the way. Then you adjust the perch on the collar to set your ride height. These Konis were made to utilize the GCs that are made for this shock.

ph0shizzle

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr Hammond &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Before you go off buying anything, what do you want to use with these shocks?

If you want to use stock springs or aftermarket progressive rate springs (Eibach, H&R etc...), you will have to purchase the slip on spring perches that sit on the snap ring. Sorry your stock ones are spot welded to the shocks. They are not meant to be removed.

If you want to turn you Koni's into coil overs, you can actually buy the adjustable spring perches right from Koni, which is what I did, and then you can buy any 2.5" Linear rate spring (Eibach ERS, Hypercoil etc...) in what ever length or spring rate you choose. Ended up being cheaper then buying Ground-Control's and better customer service.</TD></TR></TABLE>
im willin to put anythin on to use these shocks as long as itll work and go together. but i dont wanna end up buying a set of coilovers/springs and havin it not be able to work cuz im missing parts..

miss chauzilla

hey jason! this is chau, i know this is off topic but i cant pm u or anything bkhuz i'm still on trial haha but uhm about the cargo cover will u go lower than $70?

instrument

THats what the spring perches look like





that's the clip that the ground control sleeve sits on..if you get coil overs.

if you have them both you're good.

https://honda-tech.com/zero...age=1 there's a complete link for you to check

ph0shizzle

i got the sleeves but no perches. can i use the ground control coilovers with it without havin to buy the perches? or i have to buy them to use the ground controls

.joseph

Yes you can

I looked at my GC's they come with a little ring that I believe sits on that clip on your

shocks

Mr Hammond

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ph0shizzle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i got the sleeves but no perches. can i use the ground control coilovers with it without havin to buy the perches? or i have to buy them to use the ground controls</TD></TR></TABLE>

So you already have Ground Controls?

crimsonv4mpire

koni's + h&r race springs= amazing setup
tighten the front all the way and about halfway on the rear... it
's banging

Mr Hammond

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crimsonv4mpire &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">koni's + h&r race springs= amazing setup
tighten the front all the way and about halfway on the rear... it
's banging</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have the complete opposite set-up and I believe my set-up is "banging".

ph0shizzle

no i don thave the ground controls yet. if its goin to work with just from buying the ground controls then i will buy it. but if i still have to buy other parts as well to make it work then yea ill have to think about it