Key lock cylinder
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Re: Key lock cylinder
very easy! all you have too do is remove the inside door trim, pull back the plastic sheet and you will see 2 bolts holding the handle on, remove the rods, take handle off and you will see a clip that holds in the key barrel, pull it up and your good to go
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It isn't very hard to change but you have to be really careful:
1. Don't disassemble the cylinder in your car. Take the whole thing inside your house and use a proper table with a work lamp and a colored cloth or t-shirt covering your workspace. The colored cloth/t-shirt will catch the springs and tumblers when they fall out and the color will allow you to see the tiny silver parts easier.
2. When you disassemble the key cylinder there are things called tumblers that have to be placed in a certain order or else your key doesn't work. So, keep track of which tumbler goes into which hole in the cylinder. If you are not careful you will render your lock useless. So, number the holes in the cylinder...1,2,3,4,5,6,7...and then keep the tumblers in exactly that order.
3. Pay close attention to the tiny little springs that hold the tumblers into place. When you pull the tumbler out of one hole and put it into the new cylinder you will see a tiny spring that pushes the tumbler up. If you loose any of the springs the cylinder will be useless. The springs are only 3-5mm long and like 1mm in diameter. They are so small that if you aren't using a good work surface...like the kitchen table...you will loose them. The springs push the tumblers up against the key cylinder and as such you cannot make your cylinder work if you loose even 1 of the springs. There is a spring and a tumbler inside every single one of the holes on the cylinder. So, keep track!
4. Take you time and make sure that you put each tumbler in it's correct place with the correct spring. Swap each tumbler one at a time. Don't be tempted into taking the whole cylinder apart and all the tumblers out at the same time. If you do that you won't remember which tumbler goes into which hole and the lock will not function.
5. Once you have swapped the tumblers and springs from one cylinder to the other test fit the key to make sure it slides in and out easily. The tumblers should all line up and be at the same height. If they aren't then something went wrong and you may be in trouble.
Like I said to begin with...this isn't that hard to do. But if you have any concerns about your ability to do this I would recommend taking the old cylinder and the new one to a qualified locksmith and let them do the swap. It usually isn't too expensive...like $40.
I have done this too two of my Hondas. I did it the same way I told you to do it. But even though I have done this twice it still takes time and patience. Keep track of your tumblers and springs and if all else fails take some digital photos of your progress and that will help you get things back together if something goes wrong.
1. Don't disassemble the cylinder in your car. Take the whole thing inside your house and use a proper table with a work lamp and a colored cloth or t-shirt covering your workspace. The colored cloth/t-shirt will catch the springs and tumblers when they fall out and the color will allow you to see the tiny silver parts easier.
2. When you disassemble the key cylinder there are things called tumblers that have to be placed in a certain order or else your key doesn't work. So, keep track of which tumbler goes into which hole in the cylinder. If you are not careful you will render your lock useless. So, number the holes in the cylinder...1,2,3,4,5,6,7...and then keep the tumblers in exactly that order.
3. Pay close attention to the tiny little springs that hold the tumblers into place. When you pull the tumbler out of one hole and put it into the new cylinder you will see a tiny spring that pushes the tumbler up. If you loose any of the springs the cylinder will be useless. The springs are only 3-5mm long and like 1mm in diameter. They are so small that if you aren't using a good work surface...like the kitchen table...you will loose them. The springs push the tumblers up against the key cylinder and as such you cannot make your cylinder work if you loose even 1 of the springs. There is a spring and a tumbler inside every single one of the holes on the cylinder. So, keep track!
4. Take you time and make sure that you put each tumbler in it's correct place with the correct spring. Swap each tumbler one at a time. Don't be tempted into taking the whole cylinder apart and all the tumblers out at the same time. If you do that you won't remember which tumbler goes into which hole and the lock will not function.
5. Once you have swapped the tumblers and springs from one cylinder to the other test fit the key to make sure it slides in and out easily. The tumblers should all line up and be at the same height. If they aren't then something went wrong and you may be in trouble.
Like I said to begin with...this isn't that hard to do. But if you have any concerns about your ability to do this I would recommend taking the old cylinder and the new one to a qualified locksmith and let them do the swap. It usually isn't too expensive...like $40.
I have done this too two of my Hondas. I did it the same way I told you to do it. But even though I have done this twice it still takes time and patience. Keep track of your tumblers and springs and if all else fails take some digital photos of your progress and that will help you get things back together if something goes wrong.
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Re: Key lock cylinder
Getting to the cylinder takes only these steps that you have listed...but replacing the cylinder with a cylinder repair kit requires a bit more than what you have listed. If you have ever had to fix a cylinder before you would know that you have to remove the tumblers and tumbler springs in order to do a proper cylinder repair. That requires a few more steps than you have listed.
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Getting to the cylinder takes only these steps that you have listed...but replacing the cylinder with a cylinder repair kit requires a bit more than what you have listed. If you have ever had to fix a cylinder before you would know that you have to remove the tumblers and tumbler springs in order to do a proper cylinder repair. That requires a few more steps than you have listed.
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I think this is pretty much exactly what shailoche said, but includes picture as well:
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/diy-fixing-doorlocks-open-any-key-2237857/
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/diy-fixing-doorlocks-open-any-key-2237857/
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I think this is pretty much exactly what shailoche said, but includes picture as well:
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2237857
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2237857
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Re: Key lock cylinder
The tumblers reside inside the key cylinder which means you cannot replace one without removing the parts from the other. If you look at the link in the previous post you will see why you can't "just swap it not actually change the tumblers."
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Re: Key lock cylinder
The only other thing you can do is roll with two different keys, one for the ignition and one for the doors, just like the old 1980's GM cars did.
Last edited by shailoche; 06-14-2009 at 05:57 AM. Reason: spelling
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