hyper209

i have a d16z6 civic si 93 and is wondering what is the best way to get power ? i have i/h/e.....? i want to get power keepin it N/A ALLL DA WAY..............

EGhatch33

swap... ur not gonna make huge power on a NA single cam.. just not gonna happen

hyper209

what about s.charging or t.charging ?

FastAzzCivic

Okay bro, not being an ***, out of all honesty, unless you have an almost unlimited amount of money, it will take you FOREVER to make an even worth it NA D series engine.

cambopheonix56

n2o.

Libertariat

dude,

1) s.charging or t. charging is all forced induction, meaning not N/A.
2) Why don't you want a turbo? Done correctly you can get good mileage, reliability, and lots of go-ness.
3) with a turbo you can get out for $1000 with a tune.

Now Gtfo

knockout

intake manifold, valvetrain (more aggressive cams, titanium valves/retainers, better springs), and nitrous. nitrous is your only option for "NA" if you actually want power.

JDM_EK_wanabe

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NOS is still a form of FI becuase it is upping your compression, and its FORCING more air and fuel into the engine

TurboTagTeam

N/A D series= Garbage

Even N/A B series engines don't make good power

I'm a turbo kinda guy

bmoua

damn bro your from modesto...haha...wouldn't even touch my car if i lived up north too much car jackings going on...as for d n/a..not worth it man...i've got a y8 and i'm keeping it all stock (except for looks and suspension) until i get a swap some time down the line...its just not worth it...unless your going turbo...but thats a different story...

Kamin

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you just said "na all da way"

do you know what NA means?

Libertariat

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you just said "na all da way"

do you know what NA means? </TD></TR></TABLE>

x 10

Everyones Hero

I'd get a ZEX 59300 cam for your Z6, and eventually I'd get the supporting valve train and rev the **** out of it.

How fast do you want this NA "monster" to go?

-Gary-

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How fast do you want this NA "monster" to go?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Low 15's.

lightcrx

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how does nos up your compression????? more air + fuel = power
nitrous is not fi
-joseph

Malakai

It may not be actual FI but it is still classified as it.

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how does nos up your compression????? more air + fuel = power
nitrous is not fi
-joseph</TD></TR></TABLE>

Everyones Hero

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nitrous is not fi
-joseph</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nitrous is considered FI.

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Whoot! 15 second monsters FTW!

expletive that. For a little over a grand I put together a junkyard setup w/ some pretty good parts. Ran a 13.7 with very little tuning. Of course, now I have a purpose built motor & I'm waiting on the money to get a new GT series turbo.

That is one of the biggest advantages of a turbo setup. If you want more power you can buy a bigger turbo. With NA there's only so much you can do. Then you're left kicking your *** saying "Damn it! I wish I had just turbo'd this piece of ****."

-Gary-

The more I think about it the more I want to turbo mine....

Everyones Hero

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If it's a DD then I'd get a small turbo and just run 10-12lbs.

A good bit of extra power & the screaming from the little turbo is awesome sounding.

It makes me hard & the girls wet all at once. The only thing better than that sound is sex.

-Gary-

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If it's a DD then I'd get a small turbo and just run 10-12lbs.

A good bit of extra power & the screaming from the little turbo is awesome sounding.</TD></TR></TABLE>

How much did you pay for yours? How long did it take to install it? Did you do it yourself?

I know the 10-12 is about max for stock components. I don't want to be Mr. Badass, I just want to be a little faster and keep the reliability and gas mileage.

Everyones Hero

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by -Gary- &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How much did you pay for yours? How long did it take to install it? Did you do it yourself?

I know the 10-12 is about max for stock components. I don't want to be Mr. Badass, I just want to be a little faster and keep the reliability and gas mileage.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Under 1500. That was turbo, manifold, BOV, injectors, intercooler, PLX-M300, tuning software, & my autozone intercooler piping & couplers.

It took me and a friend a weekend to do, and we ran into a lot of problems because we fabricated EVERYTHING, and the flange on the turbo & manifold were different, so we had to have a guy weld a flange onto the turbo, ect. We were also noobs when it came to everything car related. So it took 2 car-tards 2 days to get the car running.

As far as 10-12 being the max, it'll depend on the turbo. I was running 15psi daily & the only reason I had to put in a new motor is because the car was overheating & I couldn't find out where the water was going.

kidderoner

simple!! squeeze.

-Gary-

Coolness. Thanks for the info.

Oh yeah, where did you buy your kit from? If you bought another one who would you buy it from?

Everyones Hero

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Oh yeah, where did you buy your kit from? If you bought another one who would you buy it from?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I just researched what parts I needed and slowly picked them up one by one.

I got the turbo from one member, the manifold from another, injectors & BOV from another, intercooler from JohnnyRaceCar.com.

I'll never buy a pre-made kit, but for high horsepower people like the Full-Race kits (way too rich for my blood). Others that are just starting out reccomend the GReddy kit. It's a good kit for a DD, but it's fairly expensive for the "low" amount of HP you can make with it. I think a Greddy kit would give you exactly what you're looking for. That extra power without tons of lag or reliability issues.

My next "kit" will be a GT30 w/ a ramhorn manifold & precision FMIC. Easy $2500+ spent.
Looking to make 350whp on my SOHC.

If you're looking for reliability & a little bit of quickness I'd look into a used Greddy kit. You don't have to pay the brand-new price, but you get exactly what you're looking for.

I will say I have had 2nd thoughts about going bigger & regret the money I've spent, but I just hop into the car, go down the street, and then I realize how much life would suck without the snail.

Kamin

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lightcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how does nos up your compression????? more air + fuel = power
nitrous is not fi
-joseph</TD></TR></TABLE>
you need to look up what nitrous oxide is and how it works

nitrous is forced induction.