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Old 08-31-2011, 07:54 PM
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Are either of your disconnected battery connectors touching metal?
Nope, just went out and redid the readings and got the same result.
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I kinda hope it is just the underhood fuse box cause i can get one for 40 bucks and thats a easy fix lol
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Based on your Ohm readings, your battery should be completely dead. If not, there's a problem with your Ohm readings. Can you post a link to the user's manual for your multimeter?
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The problem is i don't know the brand of multi meter I have. I cant find a brand name on it anywhere. My dad uses it for work though when doing low voltage. I will search around and try to find out if I can find what kind of multi meter it is
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What voltage do you measure across the two battery posts?
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What voltage do you measure across the two battery posts?
I got reading of 12.58 dc
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I got reading of 12.58 dc
If your Ohm readings were correct, then you battery would be dead, which it obviously is not.

Can you post pictures showing what you have been touching with the meter probes to do the Ohm tests?
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When the multimeter is set to read Ohms, can you find a menu to scroll through to check the settings?

There's another dial setting below resistance (horseshoe) that may be for continuity tests (sound symbol). Turn the meter to that setting and touch the probes together. Does the meter make a sound?
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I cant get pictures right now as my flashlights batteries went out. but for which test? I can try and decsribe what I have been touching witht the meter probes for each test if you would like
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When the multimeter is set to read Ohms, can you find a menu to scroll through to check the settings?

There's another dial setting below resistance (horseshoe) that may be for continuity tests (sound symbol). Turn the meter to that setting and touch the probes together. Does the meter make a sound?
Yes it makes a sound when i touch the probes together on that setting. Also there are no further settings i can access when testing ohms
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I will post a picture of the multimeter I am currently using to perform these tests and post it in a sec
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Here is the multimeter I have been using.

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Yes it makes a sound when i touch the probes together on that setting. Also there are no further settings i can access when testing ohms
Redo some of the tests using this continuity setting. With the battery and alternator white wire disconnected, touch the meter probes to the:

1) two fuse 41 screws

2) one fuse 41 screw and the disconnected battery ground connector

3) other fuse 41 screw and the disconnected battery ground connector

Does the meter beep with any of these three tests?
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Redo some of the tests using this continuity setting. With the battery and alternator white wire disconnected, touch the meter probes to the:

1) two fuse 41 screws

2) one fuse 41 screw and the disconnected battery ground connector

3) other fuse 41 screw and the disconnected battery ground connector

Does the meter beep with any of these three tests?
No beeps during any of the tests what so ever...
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No beeps during any of the tests what so ever...
Now reconnect just the alternator wire and then redo tests 2 and 3. Verify that the continuity test works again by touching the meter probes together.
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Now reconnect just the alternator wire and then redo tests 2 and 3. Verify that the continuity test works again by touching the meter probes together.
Ok so First I verified that touching the two probes together that it made the beeping noise, then reconnected the white alternator wire to the fuse box, when i touched the left screw on fuse 41, and the disconnected ground cable it beeped, when i touched the right screw and disconnected ground cable i got nothing.
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Ok so First I verified that touching the two probes together that it made the beeping noise, then reconnected the white alternator wire to the fuse box, when i touched the left screw on fuse 41, and the disconnected ground cable it beeped, when i touched the right screw and disconnected ground cable i got nothing.
Is the left screw the one that measured 0.2V and the right screw the one that measured 12.5V in your original voltage measurements?
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Is the left screw the one that measured 0.2V and the right screw the one that measured 12.5V in your original voltage measurements?
Yes
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Default Re: Keep Blowing Battery Fuses. PLEASE HELP!

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Bingo!!!

The short is coming from the alternator or its circuit.

Now disconnect the large white wire directly from the alternator. It's usually covered by a rubber boot and secured by a nut. When it is disconnected, redo the "beep" test with the left screw and disconnected battery ground connector. Is the beep no longer heard?
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Bingo!!!

The short is coming from the alternator or its circuit.

Now disconnect the large white wire directly from the alternator. It's usually covered by a rubber boot and secured by a nut. When it is disconnected, redo the "beep" test with the left screw and disconnected battery ground connector. Is the beep no longer heard?
No it still makes the beep.
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No it still makes the beep.
Now also disconnect the alternator white wire from the fuse box and redo the same test. Does the test again no longer yield a "beep"?
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Now also disconnect the alternator white wire from the fuse box and redo the same test. Does the test again no longer yield a "beep"?
Sorry i kind of retarded out and realized that when i performed the last text i forgot to completely pull the white wire and eyelet off the alternator, just took the nut off of it, when i removed the wire from the alternator and touched the left screw on fuse 41 and the ground cable there was no beep.
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Sorry i kind of retarded out and realized that when i performed the last text i forgot to completely pull the white wire and eyelet off the alternator, just took the nut off of it, when i removed the wire from the alternator and touched the left screw on fuse 41 and the ground cable there was no beep.
and also no beep when i diconnect the alternator wire from the fuse box. that a good sign? lol
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Sorry i kind of retarded out and realized that when i performed the last text i forgot to completely pull the white wire and eyelet off the alternator, just took the nut off of it, when i removed the wire from the alternator and touched the left screw on fuse 41 and the ground cable there was no beep.
Just to verify, the white wire still connected to hood fuse box but it was disconnected from the alternator, right?

Do you have a good 80A fuse to install into the fuse 41 slot?
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yes, it was disconnected the second time i performed it, did it once with the white wire attached to the fuse box and not the alternator and the second time with the alternator wire disconnected from both the alternator and fuse box, both times it yielded no beep.

And no I don't have any spare 80A laying around, where can i get replacements?
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