2gen hatch

im clueless on the specs af the k- series motors. i just wanted to know which would be best for a swap. the k20z1? k20a? or k20a2? what are the differences in each and which is best/quickest?

SinsEvil666

THIS INFO WAS OBTAINED FROM CLUBCIVIC.COM by joe7987 (link below)
After 1 search in google this what came up. Google Magic + Search...

http://www.clubcivic.com/board....html

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K-Series Specs

Well, I figured this would be some good reference material for all of you K-Series swappers. This should also help you to decide which engine you'd like to swap in. If you have anything to add, post away and I'll append as necessary. Feel free to help me fill in the question marks.

Special thanks to ojay for helping out with this.

K20A3
7th gen Honda Civic Si / base model Acura RSX
2.0 L DOHC
6800 RPM Redline
160 hp / 132 lb - ft tq
9.8:1 compression

K20A2
Acura RSX-S
2.0 L DOHC
???? RPM Redline
200 hp / 142 lb - ft tq
11:1 compression

K20A
Honda Integra Type R
2.0 L DOHC
???? RPM Redline
220 hp / 150 lb - ft tq
11.5:1 compression

K24A1
Honda CR-V
2.4 L DOHC
???? RPM Redline
160 hp / 162 lb - ft tq
9.6:1 compression

K24A2
Acura TSX
2.4 L DOHC
7100 RPM Redline
200 hp / 166 lb - ft tq
10.5:1 compression

K24A4
Honda Accord / Honda Element
2.4 L DOHC
???? RPM Redline
160 hp / 161 lb - ft tq
9.7:1 compression

K20Z1
2005 RSX - S
2.0 L DOHC
7800 RPM Redline
210 hp / 143 lb - ft tq
??:1 compression

K20Z3
8th Gen Civic Si (FG2)
2.0 L DOHC
8000 RPM Redline
197 hp / 139 lb - ft tq
11.0:1 compression


Head Info

A4 head
2 cams lobes on the intake
1 cam lobe on the exhaust
EGR Porting

A2 head
3 cam lobes on intake and exhaust cams
EGR Porting

A1 head
2 cam lobes on intake
1 cam lobe on exhaust.

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Now i just googled this up so i dont know if all info is 100% correct.

2gen hatch

alright man thanks. you have any idea what kpro is? lol

Syndacate

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2gen hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">alright man thanks. you have any idea what kpro is? lol</TD></TR></TABLE>

Kpro is tuning software for the K20. You can't just use a regular ECU like you can with the rest of honda swaps. The K20 has to be dyno tuned in stock form.

By the way, this is all very common information, please search next time. I hate K's with a passion and I know the answers to this..

In any event, last I heard there's a big scandal with K-pro as a tuning program released on pgfmi.org as they were saying it was violating a contract or something - I don't know what the current status is but last time I heard it was under water.

By the way, the motor is only like 5k, if you look on hmotorsonline.com or something similar, yes, but after it's all said and done it's about a 8-11k swap. It needs, as I stated, custom tuned ECU, obviously special mounts, you need to re-do the entire fuel system, it's nowhere near as cheap as a regular B/H/F/D swap.

J. Funk

K24 block with a K20 head

THC07

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Kpro is tuning software for the K20. You can't just use a regular ECU like you can with the rest of honda swaps. The K20 has to be dyno tuned in stock form.

By the way, this is all very common information, please search next time. I hate K's with a passion and I know the answers to this..

In any event, last I heard there's a big scandal with K-pro as a tuning program released on pgfmi.org as they were saying it was violating a contract or something - I don't know what the current status is but last time I heard it was under water.

By the way, the motor is only like 5k, if you look on hmotorsonline.com or something similar, yes, but after it's all said and done it's about a 8-11k swap. It needs, as I stated, custom tuned ECU, obviously special mounts, you need to re-do the entire fuel system, it's nowhere near as cheap as a regular B/H/F/D swap.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Amen!
Poor PGMFI. Im gonna have to make a donating to them soon. Fukc Hondata, that name and product discussion should be ban from HT.
I also dislike K series. Pointless!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by J. Funk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">K24 block with a K20 head</TD></TR></TABLE>

that on the other-hand i would agree with


Modified by THC07 at 3:41 PM 7/28/2008

Jsarv

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Kpro is tuning software for the K20. You can't just use a regular ECU like you can with the rest of honda swaps. The K20 has to be dyno tuned in stock form.

By the way, this is all very common information, please search next time. I hate K's with a passion and I know the answers to this..

In any event, last I heard there's a big scandal with K-pro as a tuning program released on pgfmi.org as they were saying it was violating a contract or something - I don't know what the current status is but last time I heard it was under water.

By the way, the motor is only like 5k, if you look on hmotorsonline.com or something similar, yes, but after it's all said and done it's about a 8-11k swap. It needs, as I stated, custom tuned ECU, obviously special mounts, you need to re-do the entire fuel system, it's nowhere near as cheap as a regular B/H/F/D swap.</TD></TR></TABLE>

actually thats not completely true, the main reason if i remember correctly is the ecu for the k-series have immobilizers in them and k-pro you can disable the immobilizers.

on the other hand i completely agree and think that k-series are way overrated, i will stick to my h22, be a lil bit slower but save about 3-5k.

THC07

Someone posted Kpro downloader software on the pgmfi forum that allowed you to download the internal ROM from a K series ECU that had Hondata K Pro installed. Hoedata said Dave didnt act fast enough to remove their "intellectual property" fukcin dicks. in my opnion Honda should sue hondata for making a product and selling it with Honda's "intellectual property". In any case, yea K series are very expensive still. one day when they are most cost effective i will swap as well, untill then i await the H2B for the Hatch.

Hey syndacate... hehe, got my turbo parts yesterday. took that expensive n2o off. just need to get a custom manifold made and ill have a Cali street legal H22 civic Turbo 14psi with AC and power steering. maybe the end of summer.

2000civicem1

good find very helpful