chads

hello im looking into buying a 2002 civic dx 25k mi with a brand new rsx motor transplant with i/h/e

i believe he said he has gsr axles and everything ran and drove perfect.

when i go to look at the car what are some things i should look for?


the rest of the car it totally stock exept for coil-overs (forgot the brand) it has the stock hub caps and all of the struts are blown no spoiler and has 35% tint the car is black.

assuming the car is great shape what is a reasonable offer?

he claims the car runs low 13s is this reasonable? im guessing he gets mid 20s mpg? is this a fine car for daily driveing?

thanks guys

Crank

iTrader: (1)

its reasonable, how much is he trying to get rid of it for? and the GSR Axles, I highly doubt it fits on a K20 motor

chads

he said gsr axles unless i heard wrong.

more help would be great...

chads

good night ya'll bump

chads

so none likes a k20 02 coupe?

EX-T

not a bad setup. check and make sure that the swap is clean and not all hacked up. check out the motor mounts and the throttle cable and make the brackets aren't all hacked either.

BTW I know the he wasn't able to use the stock K20 axles and I also know the GSR axles aren't the ones he used b/c they are B Series and the engine is a K Series. That would be like putting a square block into a round hole!

When you go to check it out take some pix of it and post it up on here.

IM ALL BOB

actually I've heard of some drag racers with K20 swaps using GSR axles..but I do not know if it can cause a problem later down the road..also axle length may vary for different K swaps since not all Bolt-in mounts are created equal and some push the motor more to the passenger side and others toward middle of the car..I would hit up Brian from hasport and also some of the other K20 guru swap guys on this board who can steer you clear of any problems

chads

thanks for the help guys.

so i need to check:
throttle cable brackets
motor mounts
axles

anything else??

if he did use gsr axles will it cause any problems down the road?
what should i look for when checking out the axles?

JT0220

I met up with a guy that has a k in his 7th gen civic. he said the k swap in '01+ civic uses gsr axles.. It seems to be holding up. He definately does NOT run low to mid 13's. he has intake and exhaust also. He was pretty equal to rsx type s' I guess.

I would check the engine code first. Make sure its a K20a2 or even k20a if he claims its a type s motor. Just look to see if the wiring looks clean. No exposed splices. Soldered connections is always good. Overall, check to see if the swap itself is clean. Engine looks good, no stripped bolts around the mounts, engine sits level. Look for VIN plates on the motor. Run the VIN to see if its clean unless he's got paperwork.

Basically, if anything looks fishy, or you're wondering about something...ASK. Dont be shy. Drive the car especially. Make sure the motor is running the way it should. ie: ivtec kicks in when its suppose to, no hesitation, etc.

As far as offers - I usually check kbb for stock values, then in this case, tack on the amount for the swap. K Swaps in 7th gens shop installed are usually between $5k (USDM) to $7K (JDM) i think.

Jon V

You should ask him who did the swap? that is not a very common swap and there is not to many people doing them (or making mounts for them) so i would first make sure it was dfone right. Personally if the mounts aren't hasport I wouldn't buy it.

Just make sure the thing is not ghetto rigged

chads

the guy said he bought the motor new and he said he payed 8,000 for the swap.

how can i tell if the mounts are hasport?

i am going to call him in a few to ask more details about the car.

everyone pray that the interior isnt tan!!!

btw. he is asking $11,999 thats down from 14,000 it had been at for months.

Nate047

iTrader: (1)

They should say "Hasport" on them iirc...

chads

ok i called the guy and this is what i found out

hasport mounts
black interior
manual fan switch
gsr axles
only owner of the car
got the motor with 650 miles
15,000 miles on the swap with no problems
31k on the car
dragged the car 4 times ran 13.4 with D.R.'s
he said he gets 27mpg in town 30 on the freeway
he has all the papers for all of the work done

the swap was done at "Drag tech" in Portland Oregon they are no longer in business
has anyone heard of them?
do they do good work?

chads

ttt

silverb18

just get a b series, turbo it, and throw it in a 5 or 6 gen teg, forget all that other crap

chads

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1999 called, they want their swap back.

onetwothreelookatme

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1999 called, they want their swap back. </TD></TR></TABLE>


hahaha.

RedHB..D15B

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1999 called, they want their swap back. </TD></TR></TABLE>


funny ****

chads

so anyways can anyone see any potential problems?

is it common to install a manual fan switch? what would the reason be for doing so?

anyone heard of drag tech???

Nate047

iTrader: (1)

&lt;-----Portland local.

Hmmmm... Drag Tech? I've heard some kinda okay/borderline shady **** about that shop... U R right though, they are no longer in business, so that says something... Just have a mechanic look over the car top to bottom. That's something u should do whenever ur buying a used car anyway...

chads

agreed

FF lotus

you would run a manual fan switch if you drag race alot especially if you have a turbo - or the fan switch relay is blown or you just have really high underhood temps

many cars like those with an aftermarket header and no heat sheild can easily heat soak the stock radiator when you stop at a light ect enough to bring water temps up a bit

When you drive the car look out for studdering or mid throttle lagging ect and make sure it does'nt vibrate at freeway speeds ect meaning the swap is positioned wrong or the axles are incorrect ect

also the car should in theory being slightly lighter get the same if not better gas milage than the RSX

although being lowered probably means rear toe in on that car which will drain a bit

BTW no car is an any second car without time slips to prove it

oh and make sure the car is not up for smog soon they won't pass that swap in many places

SpooN Man

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FF lotus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you would run a manual fan switch if you drag race alot especially if you have a turbo - or the fan switch relay is blown or you just have really high underhood temps

many cars like those with an aftermarket header and no heat sheild can easily heat soak the stock radiator when you stop at a light ect enough to bring water temps up a bit

When you drive the car look out for studdering or mid throttle lagging ect and make sure it does'nt vibrate at freeway speeds ect meaning the swap is positioned wrong or the axles are incorrect ect

also the car should in theory being slightly lighter get the same if not better gas milage than the RSX

although being lowered probably means rear toe in on that car which will drain a bit

BTW no car is an any second car without time slips to prove it

oh and make sure the car is not up for smog soon they won't pass that swap in many places </TD></TR></TABLE>

You must mean the firewall in a k20 swap.

FF lotus

uncoated, un sheilded thin tube replacements will add considerable underhood temps and will effect the radiator regaurdless

slowhatch4now

Im here answering a few questions i saw.

<U>Manual fan switch:</U> Mines doesnt have a switch, it is constantly running due to me having my small stock radiator in my eg and since its all motor id rather have the car cool rather then it haveing to worry about when to think its too hot and take too long to cool down.

The GSR axles seem to be working with the swap if switched into an 02 chassis so that seems OK.

The vibration problem is the mounts. I have one of the first set of released mounts in the world, so they suck and they vibration is stupidly annoying and loud. Im pretty sure that Hasport wont have this problem since they came out with their product a few months later, but quality products.

Having the header in the rear for this 02 chassis isnt a problem. The firewall in the 02 chassis was made so it could withstand the heat. In my eg thats one of the problems, when it was made , it was made where the header was in the front of the engine bay so the incoming air could keep the temps down. With the header closer to the firewall, engine temps seem to get a BIT high at times so im thinking of doing the "JDM" style rear tilt hood.

Yea just to let you guys know i have a k20 swap in my eg
Peace