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Old 10-05-2008, 03:43 PM
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I try'd conpression startin the car started but it was very very weak could barely hear it, changed the battery.

I'm think that i'm not gettin power to my fuel pump but im not sure if that is the problem, or starter, or alternator...

this was my first swap that i did by myself but i've watched/help on alot of swaps...

i hope someone could help me out on gettin some info why my doesn't start...

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Old 10-05-2008, 03:58 PM
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Default Re: Just did swap and the car doesn't crank over... (Jkim81)

make sure all your grounds are grounded properly.


Does the fuel pump prime when you turn the key to the "on" position?
Old 10-05-2008, 04:02 PM
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i checked everythin all the plugs and grounds and seemed like everythin is right...i get in the car and turn the key on the on position and i don't think i heard the pump...

i don't hear anythin when i turn the key all the way over...doesn't try to crank...

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Old 10-05-2008, 04:04 PM
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Default Re: Just did swap and the car doesn't crank over... (Jkim81)

is it the stock fuel pump?
has the car been sitting?

Tried changing the fuel filter?
Get the fuel pump working and the problem will more then likely be solved.
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im not sure if its a stock fuel pump and no i haven't tryed replacing the filter...the was sittin for almost 2 months until i got it...
Old 10-05-2008, 04:15 PM
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but would that cause the problem for a car not to crank/fire up?

my last car had a problem with the start so im think that might be a problem also...
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yes, in order for a car to crank it needs 3 essential things.

Air, Fuel, and Spark.


Spark plugs and wires should be replaced with any swap especially if the car has been sitting.

So if the fuel pump isnt working, there will be no starting the car.
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well
first off
when u say crank
do u mean
u turn the key and nothing happens
or u turn the key
and it spins and spins but never actually starts?
Old 10-05-2008, 06:18 PM
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When I turn the key nothin happens it doesn't make any sound or hear my fuel pump turn on...
Old 10-05-2008, 06:21 PM
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does ur accseorys turn on??? i know... i cant spell to save my life.
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sounds like somehow your have like a main fuse blown.
or ur battery is dead.
check ALL fuses under hood and dash.
do u hear a click under the dash?
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I bought a brabd new battery for you today and it didn't help...I haven't checked the fuses under the hood or dash...I don't hear a click when I try to crank it...
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you plug an ecu into the car right?
Old 10-05-2008, 08:27 PM
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is all the sensors in the right place and connected and is the motor in TDC.........
Old 10-05-2008, 08:28 PM
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lol
the tdc and motor **** doesnt matter
u dont understand
NOTHING is happening
so
case in point
when you turn that key your car doesnt think anything is happening.
check all your fuses.
make sure ecu is plugged in.
when you turn your key. do your ac and like radio come on or no?
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I didn't put the belt back on the for A/C...I never took the ecu out when I pulled the engine out...the heater blows and what not...the car didn't come with a radio...
Old 10-06-2008, 04:26 AM
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wow
your really are clueless arent u?
but apparently if its blowing then it has power.
umm..
check the grounds and check your starter.
make sure your starter has everything hooked up.
if in doubt. take it to autozone and have them test it.
because if its getting no power then it wont crank.
and it could just be a lose wire or sumthn simple
or.
CHECK ALL YOUR DAMN FUSES
im telling u
we had a no start com in the other day.
he said it was all messed up with the tumbler and ignition switch.
i walked to the fuse box.
said hey there ur problem
ignition control fuse was blown. it would crank but no spark.
so. check your like starter signal fuses.
and make sure everything is nice and snug on wires.
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the last time I got my start check in one of my last cars it was faulty but when I took it to get it tested it passed and tested it 5 times in 2 different stores...

I will check the fuses and the connection to the starter and stuff...

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when me and my ex swapped a gsr in mines, the grounds were all bad..and i had this same problem..had to go through every single one and make sure they were all in the right places. and check the fuses too..
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All the fuses were fine nothin blown and the starter was good also...noticed that one of my grounds were bad so after I fixed that it started right now which was cool...

Then I accured another problem after it starts for about 45 seconds then it gradually dies...now I can figure out what the problem is now...

Help would be greatful...

Thanks

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ummm...
gradually dying... well....
make sure that your fuel filter is clean.
im not too sure on that...
anyone else?
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Default Re: Just did swap and the car doesn't crank over... (Jkim81)

well similar prob like that happens all the time there was a similar thread about this not a week ago...try to find it. if the starter is bad u can tap it lightly with a hammer but not to hard if that doesnt work it should be a ground more likely the tranny ground.....id replace all the grounds with brand new ones doesnt cost much money to do that.....also sounds like it could be a loose connection on the ground to the connector....and do a normal tune up to..like everything wouldnt hurt
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That's all I've noticed so far after I got it to start...
Old 10-08-2008, 01:11 PM
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would the timin make the car kinda bogg and make it die?
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oh
check your coolant temp sensors or stuff
possibly it could b e thinkin the engine is warm when its not or sumthn. idk....


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