TTM

Just got me a 1997 Honda Civic EX Sedan, silver. Its in great condition, and of course its manual.

What should i do to it first?
I already ordered an intake, and a skunk2 shift **** (i dig the fancy shifters, they give you like 10hp)

Maybe ill add some pics

MasterKwan

Weld the rear doors shut and pretend it's a 2 door?

SmurfDA

get rid of the dragon intake system for a good one

green-

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MasterKwan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Weld the rear doors shut and pretend it's a 2 door? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Whats wrong with 4 doors?

to the original poster, do a search.

MasterKwan

Realistically, there's nothing wrong with a 4 door. People are less likely to steal them and they probably don't cost as much to insure. In the other hand they're probably heavier, longer and not as stiff as a 2 door. My comment was a joke.

SOHC4life 96

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=335078
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=871525 &lt;~~~look at the title

Se how easy it is to find what you are looking for when you search?

[Martha Stewart]Searching, it's a good thing[/Marthat Stewart]

willyboyK20

hey nice choice
check out mine

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1039159

I just got all the bolt-ons saving for a turbo or swap

iBear

iTrader: (1)

get a good suspension setup, then maybe a swap or turbo the ex motor if you want

EvilPinkEye

hey man, got me a four door and would like me a 2dr, but just like the idea that a 4dr can keep up/beat a 2dr..nuff said

colinproctor

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well lets see..... for starters my 97 4 door wieghs less than a 99-00 Si. granted the Si has a b16a2 in it but the 4 door wieghs in at 300 pounds lighter. so do a b16 or b18 in the 4 door and you got the same wieght as a 99-00 Si, which is a 2 door that is soooooo much lighter right. oh and for 4 doors being longer than a 2 door, that is why i can go buy a catback exhaust for a EK 2 door and bolt it right up with no modification to my EK 4 door. the exhaust lenghts are the SAME. the car is not a limo.

you did say PROBABLY HEAVIER, LONGER, but just wanted to clear that up for you

Good ol' Screwtape

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well lets see..... for starters my 97 4 door wieghs less than a 99-00 Si. </TD></TR></TABLE>

werd. why do people still not know this?

Daniel

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As well as your knowledge of Civics. Please read the link in my signature; I made it specifically for people like you.

And for the OP, depends on what you're looking to do with the car. I could tell you to boost that bitch, but if your goals are for a well-handling machine then why bother with that, right? So what you do first depends on what you want out of the car first.

MasterKwan

You guys are WAY too uptight.

Does owning a 4 door do that to you? Compare a 97 2 door to a 97 4 door. Apples to Apples. Cars are getting heavier every year so, your comparison is invalid.

97 2 dr coupe - 2262 lbs
97 2 dr hatch - 2222 lbs
97 4 dr sedan - 2319 lbs

So, the 4dr is heavier.

The wheelbase is the same which is impressive. Sheet metal versus doors. I'm willing to bet the 4dr isn't as stiff as a 2 door. I can't actually find number on that though. It's not always true. M3 4 dr is actually stiffer than the 2 dr.

colinproctor

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MasterKwan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You guys are WAY too uptight.

Does owning a 4 door do that to you? Compare a 97 2 door to a 97 4 door. Apples to Apples. Cars are getting heavier every year so, your comparison is invalid.

97 2 dr coupe - 2262 lbs
97 2 dr hatch - 2222 lbs
97 4 dr sedan - 2319 lbs

So, the 4dr is heavier.

The wheelbase is the same which is impressive. Sheet metal versus doors. I'm willing to bet the 4dr isn't as stiff as a 2 door. I can't actually find number on that though. It's not always true. M3 4 dr is actually stiffer than the 2 dr.

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oh my god. the reason i compared my 97 4 door to a newer year 99-00 Si, is because of that fact that is comes with a b16 stock. all the other cars that you mentioned above in the quote from you all have d-series stock. so for all the people that get a 96-00 EK 2 door or 4 door and swap for a b-series engine, the wieght would be equivalent to a 99-00 Si. therfore way easier to use that comparison than explain this to you.

way to post up some wieghts after someone gives you the link like you knew them all along.

Daniel

mugencivic4dr

Danm i didn't know that the 4drs weighed less than the Si coupes... go JDM on your car, i would show you my 4dr but don't have any pics... try to picture this: tan 4dr civic with black top, carbon fiber hood, carbon fiber mugen lip... looks CLEAN...

MasterKwan

Actually I looked those number up on Google.

http://www.cg-car-reviews.com/...06096

Then download the PDF.

The 4 door is heavier than the 2, the 97 4 door with a B engine is heavier than a 97 2 door or 97 hatch with a B. The SI with the B has both a rear swaybar, different front LCA's and chassis re-enforcement which the 97 EX doesn't. It's a newer car and heavier.

What part of this statement of facts are you having a problem with? I'm not even saying anything bad about your baby.

iBear

iTrader: (1)

do what you want with the car!

colinproctor

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MasterKwan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The 4 door is heavier than the 2, the 97 4 door with a B engine is heavier than a 97 2 door or 97 hatch with a B. The SI with the B has both a rear swaybar, different front LCA's and chassis re-enforcement which the 97 EX doesn't. It's a newer car and heavier.

What part of this statement of facts are you having a problem with? I'm not even saying anything bad about your baby.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the part i am having the problem with is everything your are saying. YOU ARE WRONG. take a long hard look at this link and tell me why it says? that the,"newer year than 97", 99 4 door EK wieghs less than the same year, 99 2 door EK. go ahead scroll down to the 99's and take a good look smart guy .

<FONT COLOR="blue">Vehicle Curb Weights for almost EVERY Honda/Acura before 2003</FONT>

please tell me what it says

1999 Honda Civic DX CPE MT 2359
1999 Honda Civic DX CPE AT 2405
1999 Honda Civic EX CPE MT 2513
1999 Honda Civic EX CPE AT 2560
1999 Honda Civic HX CPE MT 2370
1999 Honda Civic HX CPE AT 2445
1999 Honda Civic Si CPE MT 2612

1999 Honda Civic DX SDN MT 2339
1999 Honda Civic DX SDN AT 2388
1999 Honda Civic LX SDN MT 2410
1999 Honda Civic LX SDN AT 2456
1999 Honda Civic EX SDN MT 2513
1999 Honda Civic EX SDN AT 2562

wow would you take a look at those DX numbers...... a DX with the same exact d-series motor. <FONT SIZE="2">NOW SHUTUP</FONT>.

nonsense

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FdOoUoRr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1999 Honda Civic Si CPE MT 2612 </TD></TR></TABLE>

Si = fat pig!

and they just keep getting fatter

2003 Honda Civic Si MT 2744

dunkd

4 doors are better than 2

ososlow24

hey order tha wingswest r.s kit damn that will stand out your ride ..i know cuz thats what i got on my 97 civic 4-door White. oem black carbon fiber hood black housing headlight....with 17inch konig imagines slam to the ground

mugencivic4dr

don't put a kit an it... go JDM...

MasterKwan

Maybe you should throw some common sense into the mix. You're saying a car with the same wheel base but 2 extra doors is lighter?

If you check this guys web site closely, you'll see 1/2 the time he's showing the MT as heavier than the AT and 1/2 the time it isn't. To me that means all the numbers are suspect.

As I see it

1) HB will be the lightest, same car, no trunk, no sunroof.
2) Coupe is next - 2 doors, same car.
4) Sedan 2 extra doors, and all the hardware needed to support the doors, hinges, window glass, cranks, locks.

They add 2 doors and the car is magically lighter? How does that work?

Either way, the weights are pretty close.

2000EM1

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well lets see..... for starters my 97 4 door wieghs less than a 99-00 Si. granted the Si has a b16a2 in it but the 4 door wieghs in at 300 pounds lighter.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok you're right about it weighing less, but by 300 lbs? Do you have a DX?

Well, in that case Si &gt;&gt; DX anyway, so the weight comparison shouldn't even be considered.

EK 1997 Honda Civic DX SDN MT 2370 106@6200
EK 1997 Honda Civic DX SDN AT 2319 106@6200
EK 1997 Honda Civic LX SDN MT 2438 106@6200
EK 1997 Honda Civic LX SDN AT 2387 106@6200
EK 1997 Honda Civic EX SDN MT 2568 127@6600
EK 1997 Honda Civic EX SDN AT 2518 127@6600

EK 2000 Honda Civic Si CPE MT 2612 160@7600

McNizzle

4dr is pimp fo sho'