stayontrack

I have a 99 Si with i/h/e and before i spend money on cams and valvetrain i would like to know around how much faster my car would be. I live at sea level and decent driving. Does anyone have these cams in their Si...how do u like them? Thankyou

NVMYSi

Save your money and go with Skunk stage III cams, same peformace with more reliability for half the price.

lazyguy

first off skunk stage three cams are for race use only, its the stage 2 cams that are the same specs as jun 3's

as far as reliability i would trust juns over the skunks any day
its up to u though if u want the original or the imposter

GSR901

too aggressive for stock b16

ciRcuitJerk

why dont you try mixing and matching some cams...do a search and look for some combos

spoonee

If u want to save $$...get tha skunk 2 stage 2's..... there the same as jun3's....

xtrafastcivic

skunk = american?????
man i know skunk ever since they were up here in the bay area..
all their stuff is made in tawain......
when was the last time you saw jun's break???
i haven't seen any, recently, maybe that's because it was a installation error...

and my friend had jun 3's in his car with their ecu, road raced itand had them in his car for a year no problems....


[Modified by XtraFastCRX, 10:34 PM 9/26/2002]

allmtrSI

i would have to agree on everyone's opinion on skunk. i have heard nothing but good things about their products.

krazy

umm ive heard Crower makes the cams for skunk. its just skunks own specs.....which they ripped of of JUN. ive heard of JUN breaking as well, but i have yet to call them and ask about how they make em lately. im sure the ones that broke were just a bad batch, they probably have better process in making them now.

oh yea, skunk stage 3 requires pistons and all that stuff, it is too wild to just drop in and run.

krazy

krazy

just something i heard, never confirmed it.

u forgot to mention get R springs/retainers.... safe reving for the budget racer.

blykins

Toda B's, toda springs, portflow retainers.

BERT-O

what cams are you running on???

acura_typer

I dont know, you can buy them at a discount if you want....

Looose_R

i liek my junIIIs

Apex i ITR

If I do cams it'll be something mild. If I want to be fast I'd do a turbo.

I had B's and I was a timing belt victim. I've heard negative and positive stuff about all types of cams besides the Spec A's Jun II's Skunk Stage 1's, CTR's and ITR's.

seano

That is a nice increase, I too have been considering the Skunk II stage I's. But unlike you, mine will only be going into a B16.
Does anybody have these cams in a B16?? What do you think of them??

Second2None

skunk2

WAFFLES

I've heard of the Stage 2s breaking. I think anything aftermarket faces the chance of breaking. **** happens. I also heard good things about JUN and the Skunk2 cams...some people get a bunk product.

Can't wait to get his Skunk2 Stage 1 cams soon!!!

Cheap Bastard

I have Jun 3 cams and like them alot. I have over 80k miles on the motor with these cams. Check the sig.

advanracing62

SK2 JUN
Installation errors will cause your cams to break no matter who built them, valve to piston bashing will increase your chances of trouble, failing to plan out what your are going to do increases your chances of failure.... So as you can see no matter which cam you buy there are several factors that will play into the mix of breakage. I prefer JUN because I know the R&D is there, I know they will stand behind their product as long as some moron didn't install the cam and cause it to break. I know JUN will make things right if things do go wrong... I KNOW these things. Customer satisfaction is guarenteed by JUN just follow the rules. I've never heard anything about service of SK2 or Crower, just horror stories of their products. Toda is ok, but a nemisis of JUN...

krazy

why should we believe u, ur just a cheap bastard! hehe JP

no but seriously, i think JUN has a better reputation as far as R and D goes. like i said before, if there was a problem with breakage, then JUN would have fixed this problem by now right? same with skunk or crower. As for Toda being the belt snapper, they have fixed that solution too. GET THE TODA TIMING BELT... these are race parts and race parts usually dont have any warranty of any sort. JUN reccoment JUN springs in conjunction with their cams, so if someone breaks the stage 3s using crower springs, who is there to blame? i think skunk2 and JUN are both good companies, but i probably prefer JUN over skunks because if their product goes wrong using all their parts, they can and probably would back it up and help u fix ur motor.

rumors spread like wildfires, and praise is barely ever heard...
my $0.02

krazy

00MRSi

All of this "I heard this and that about Skunk2, JUN BLAH BLAH".. is basically all here say. IMO they both make good products. Like Cheap Bastard said, he has 80k miles on his motor with JUN IIIs and no problems!! That's impressive. That's also with a stock bottom end, if I'm not mistaken. I spoke to a dude online that said his good friend has JUN stage III kit on his 1999 Si (b16a2) with Port and polished head, and CTR pistons. He's making 198 hp!! He says his friends car runs very well and very fast. He also said Area 51 did the work.

If you have the cash to spend and are an all motor freak you can push high 190s and probably low 200s whp with high compression pistons a good P&P and good tunning. I would love to hear a b16a2 revving at 9300 rpm..

BERT-O

at what rpms is peaking at?

wow, kinda the same set up i have. meaning running with the ITR cams. right now i'm making 177 hp/136 tq

however, out of everyone on this board, your making good hp's without the extreme cash flow. my ideal goal is to have rough 190-200 hp with cams. so i'm not shy from what i want it to be.

but it sum up to the two cams.

Skunk stage 2's or Jun III's.