Rice Ball

I'm thinking about supercharging my B16A. Does anyone has any suggestion or comment? I would like to know the advantages and disadvantages before I go on and buy the supercharger. Thank you.

Archidictus

In my experience, the Supercharged B16 is a great street setup, i.e. you'll surprise the hell out of some cocky sportscars, but it won't be a beast at the track. From what I've seen, b16 Si's with a JR charger run mid 14's at the track with a good launch.

Rice Ball

Thanks.

Mine ride is 00 hatch with B16A.

Mid 14, that's not so bad, is it? Considering the engine will last longer in the long run.

SOHC_MShue

i would rather spend less money on a turbo setup and make more power. Why not turbo?

Archidictus

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rice Ball &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks.

Mine ride is 00 hatch with B16A.

Mid 14, that's not so bad, is it? Considering the engine will last longer in the long run.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, there's nothing wrong with mid 14's: it's on par with most GSR hatchback swaps and that'll get you down the road in no time at all.

A bigger throttle body, a good longtube header and a 2.5inch or 3.0 inch exhaust will do wonders for a supercharger, so keep that in mind

Archidictus

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHC_MShue &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i would rather spend less money on a turbo setup and make more power. Why not turbo?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wrong. You can make just as much power with the JR charger (change the pulley if you want), it's not as expensive as the Greddy turbo kit and I've seen three Si's at the track with Greddy turbo kits with intercoolers, one of them at 10psi, running 15.0 flats and 14.8's all day long.

If he likes a supercharger better, **** a turbo.

SOHC_MShue

well those people probably couldn't drive for ****. Those are the times a turbo sohc should be running at low psi. I'm not saying the greddy kit is cheaper, but piecing together your own turbo kit would be way cheaper.

sammysnakes

a friend of mine (betterwind on HT) had a JRSC on his 00 Si and ran 14.0 all day long on street tires w/ full interior. not to mention it was a blast to drive.

Rice Ball

SC is easier to maintain, right?

funky_cornbread

any boosted car needs the same maintenance. changing the oil religiously, checking the plugs, compression tests, leakdown tests, checking to make sure there is no oil in the coolant, checking the belts is the only thing different in this setup but belts shouldn't be worried about until 10,000 miles after you install the charger. used kits are cheap. hell in the for sale forum someone is selling one that's has a custom air/water intercooler wif all the JR bells and whistles for 2 g's. i'm sure one can be had for around a 1000 to 1500.

it's a fun car in a heavy em1. i can't imagine it in a lighter hatch. would be fun. like someone said it's no beast on the track but it's a fun street car.

nhez

if ur buying the SC new i would rather go custom turbo set up. with the right set up and tuning, turbo will make more ponies throughout the powerband. if i were you i'll read up about it more, but it is always good to get what YOU want since its your car.

EL Vap133

SC= rarely needs tuning
Turbo= always needs tuning

right?

Rice Ball

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EL Vap133 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">SC= rarely needs tuning
Turbo= always needs tuning

right?</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's what I think.

By the way, have you started looking for the rear disc brake conv. for me yet, EL Vap133?

EL Vap133

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That's what I think.

By the way, have you started looking for the rear disc brake conv. for me yet, EL Vap133?</TD></TR></TABLE>

All in due time my friend! My pal that gets them hasn't gotten any lately but as soon as he does I will let you know, we need someone to wreck their Si....

sir2k

I had a JRSC on my b16.

Pros:
-It was fun, good amount of torque, can spin the tires easily.
-not as much high end as I want (turbo).
-if it's installed right then you won't have many trouble with it, just maintance.
-you can almost do the torque jerk muscle cars do but it's FWD so it's still stupid
-I loved that whinnin noise, especially when you go boost upgrade
-JRSC would be good if you don't plan on building the block and go crazy because it's more limited then turbo if you go all out.

Cons:
-I hated it because my belt would always be loose.
-everything relys on that single belt (too dependent on the belt), so if that belt is loose or something's wrong with it then it's a bitch to work with
-wayyyy not enough room to work with those damn belts and the SC in a 2000 civic coupe
-even with boost upgrade (10-12 psi) and hondata you'll be looking at 230whp, or you can just slap on a REAL turbo kit (rev hard) and get 270whp like my friend did with 10psi.
-not as much potential as turbo if you build the motor

that's all I can think of for now

DO NOT GET "LINK" ENGINE MANAGEMENT, worst $1100 investment besides gambling.

ps: after blowing my motor twice I went all motor b18. I enjoy it way more because i got more hp outta it and when vtec hits with the j's intake. music to my ears.

Mr Hammond

My friend has a JRSC'd Si. Comptech intake, Kamakazi, carsound, Kteller 2.5" exhaust, UR Ultra Rc pulley (drives alt only and over boosted to 10.5psi) and Hondata tuned. Went 13.5 @ 104mph.

Jon D

turbo=high maitenance.......sc=.....i dont know what the hell it equals because havent ever supercharged anything. Turbo IS high maintenance though. My si with a greddy 18g what fast as **** but was again a lot to maintain. I would sc it though, just because you dont have to worry about as much happening to your motor. Its not often you hear of people blowing up a motor with a supercharger on it. Do what you want to though..not what others want!! Good luck bro.

Rice Ball

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Thank you.

betterwind

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chainsaw &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a friend of mine (betterwind on HT) had a JRSC on his 00 Si and ran 14.0 all day long on street tires w/ full interior. not to mention it was a blast to drive.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah i miss that car, it was fun as **** to drive. I liked the JRSC at first but after time i had alot of problems with it. and problems = money, and I didn't have any money to keep dumping in my car. So i sold it for an EG and I love it

TorganFM

how about an SCed b18c1 or c5? anyone on here done this?

Dacalac

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TorganFM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how about an SCed b18c1 or c5? anyone on here done this?</TD></TR></TABLE>

You should start another thread so ya don't accidentaly hijack his.

But I would definately go SC over a snail. But then again I'm a fiend for reliability over power...

TorganFM

yeah i would do that but everyone would be like "theres a button called SEARCH, HIT IT YOU LAZY ******" and well... im a lazy ******. &lt;/hijack&gt;

Archidictus

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TorganFM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how about an SCed b18c1 or c5? anyone on here done this?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I've got a friend, SteveITR or something on this board, who had an ITR that he supercharged with all the boltons. It beat my brother's B18C1 hatchback by about 1/2 a car in the 1/4...but it was running poorly. I can imagine a supercharged B18C in a hatchback, after proper tuning, would pull like a freight train on heroine.

Rice Ball

Lets say that I decided to go wtih supercharger. What brand of SC are avialable out there and what would you recommend for B16A in a Hatch?

sir2k

vortech and JRSC.

you can get a used JRSC for like $1500 or less, that's how much I sold mine with all gauges intake and everything.

for the price of vortech i'd get something else.