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Old 11-01-2003, 07:20 PM
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ok, so the new d15b is in, the d15b7 is out... i've connected everything, old harness, p28 ecu...

wont start!!? anybody give me any tips? the car wont crank... put in a new starter too... weird, cause when out of the car, we tested the starter and it works... when its in, it wont work... trying to start it, we only get the fan to go on... so what relays/fuses should i look for? any grounds? i really need help!!!

setup: jdm d15b, p28 ecu, centerforce clutch, ex/si tranny... HELP!!!

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plug in your old ecu and see if it cranks up
Old 11-02-2003, 11:51 AM
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either ecu wont have the motor crank at all
Old 11-02-2003, 02:26 PM
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anybody????????
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have someone turn the key to on and hold the clutch down, while u take a wire from the bat to the stater signal. See if that works, sounds like no spark from somewhere, check bat, grounds and possible shorts.
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how bought the trans ground
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sounds like the ground on your thermostat housing to me....
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so the four wires coming out of the harness goes to the thermostat? and the tranny ground has to be there?

also, i'm using a b7 dizzy on the d15b... modified to work... does it matter??
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the only thing i will ask you is to post picz of your engine bay so we can look at it and tell you if you missed something.
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alright, i think i can do

thanks for help in advance!!!
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the dizzy should be fine...
yeah make sure you have all your grounds there and tight....the 4 wire ground at the thermostat housing will cause exactly what you are talking about your car doing.
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Default Re: jdm d15 swap problems... HELP me please!!! (flat-blk-HB)

make sure you can hear your fuel pump, make sure you have teh grounds on, and the two power wires at teh Fuse box in teh engien bay... make sure all good connections
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Default Re: jdm d15 swap problems... HELP me please!!! (CIV616)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CIV616 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">make sure you can hear your fuel pump, make sure you have teh grounds on, and the two power wires at teh Fuse box in teh engien bay... make sure all good connections</TD></TR></TABLE>

check then recheck, (i know you probilly have)
sounds like a ground...
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you guys are GREAT!!!!!!!!! so i cleaned all the grounds, made sure everything was tight... now the motor cranks, but still wont start.. i'm getting closer... fuel pump works and fuses are fine... any other ideas? i'm trying to get this going!!!

thanks all!! lets get this motor running!
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getting fire? getting gas? check for those...if you hear your pump then you are proably getting gas...firing order correct at the dizzy?
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cool i want to do this exact same swap
so keep the advice comin
thanx in advance from me too!!!
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alright... its getting gas, the fuel pump is working... still cranks, but nothing else... turned the dizzy 180* to see if that was it, nope... i shall check firing order next.. also will check for spark
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underneath the hood: "back-up" fuse repeatedly blows...
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this is the diagram and fuse that keeps blowing.. narrowed it down to this... also, we got a little bit of fuel, and we got spark... so why does this fuse keep blowing?



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This fuse provides constant battery power to the ecu when the key is turned off. If you are blowing this fuse you have a short between the fuse and the ecu. Im not at work right now to check a schematic but you can call me there tues through saturday and I can tell you what pin that feeds on the ecu....Paul 818-763-8245
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JCimport &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This fuse provides constant battery power to the ecu when the key is turned off. If you are blowing this fuse you have a short between the fuse and the ecu. Im not at work right now to check a schematic but you can call me there tues through saturday and I can tell you what pin that feeds on the ecu....Paul 818-763-8245 </TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks... does anybody have any confirmation? my babez is almost ready!!! help!!
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Yeah also check your main relay. If your main relay is bad it will sometimes blow your ECU backup fuse. Happened to me and I couldn't figure it out for 2 days.

Also make sure your fireing order is good and that dizzy is good. I've seen too many people try to modify a dizzy and it totally mess up.

Also make sure fuel is getting to the rail. Take off the return line off the FPR or FR and crank the car. Fuel should be coming out of it.

If all else fails-You have just blown up 2 ECUs. Cuz you said both won't work. I blew up a LS ECU, to this day I don't know how and why. But I put another one in and she fired right up. Oh that was a good feeling.


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