Halo

I went to the test only center where my friend works today to pass smog but failed the pretest..Car is a 97 hatch with bone stock 98 jdm gsr motor (26k miles on motor), sk2 manifold, kenji p28 spec ecu with kenji obd2--->1 jumper, 97 civic ex engine harness, ls integra stock airbox with k&n drop in filter and carsound cat..
I am pretty sure the ecu is what's causing the problem, can I use a different ecu to pass the sniffer??BTW- visual is not an issue

Thanks,
Ben

Luserkid

If your pretesting for the BAR exam you wont pass with that ecu no way no how. You need a USDM P72. And yea the ecu could be why you failed, because of weither it runs rich or lean or tuned or whatever.

EG2 SiR

I had a jdm b16a w/ stock air box CTR cams and stock exhaust manifold fail w/ a chipped p28 and pass with a stock one... if that helps

743power

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Halo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I went to the test only center where my friend works today to pass smog but failed the pretest..Car is a 97 hatch with bone stock 98 jdm gsr motor (26k miles on motor), sk2 manifold, kenji p28 spec ecu with kenji obd2---&gt;1 jumper, 97 civic ex engine harness, ls integra stock airbox with k&n drop in filter and carsound cat..
I am pretty sure the ecu is what's causing the problem, can I use a different ecu to pass the sniffer??BTW- visual is not an issue

Thanks,
Ben</TD></TR></TABLE>

do you have the evap system hooked up?

Halo

I already have a BAR sticker but it's for a 98 usdm spec b18B, so the cars baseline is for a integra ls not jdm spec gsr..My friend will get me past the visual but can't do anything about the sniffer..Yes my evap is hooked up to the stock civic evap canister

Hybrid96EK

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Halo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I already have a BAR sticker but it's for a 98 usdm spec b18B, so the cars baseline is for a integra ls not jdm spec gsr..My friend will get me past the visual but can't do anything about the sniffer..Yes my evap is hooked up to the stock civic evap canister</TD></TR></TABLE>

ECU is my guess also. Just because joe blow had X brand of chip and got by doesn't mean anything. Different chips have different fuel and spark maps. I would suggest a stock US P72 as a start.

Halo

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ECU is my guess also. Just because joe blow had X brand of chip and got by doesn't mean anything. Different chips have different fuel and spark maps. I would suggest a stock US P72 as a start.</TD></TR></TABLE>

How can use a P72 with sk2 single stage runners?

Hybrid96EK

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How can use a P72 with sk2 single stage runners?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Forgot about that part. Use a P30 then or a P61.

1hotcivicSi

come to florida

Halo

I read on some thread that running denatured alcohol in the tank prior to testing can "clean" up the results from the nose that knows

-auSTIn-

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1hotcivicSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">come to florida </TD></TR></TABLE>

Or Alabama....where people have never even heard of the word emissions, the only emissions they know about are the ones that come out of their ***

P.S. IM DRUNK

Shawn C

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w3rd!!! e-parties represent!!!

**** emissions
i'll give em some damn emissions.......
seriously bro, tell them you're the great halo

will the B20Vtec not pass????

aznboysrfr

http://www.hondaswap.com/forum...=5102

B_CRUZ!

run a obd1 p28 stock if visual isn't a issue.

also the p72 won't throw a code if you are running a skunk2 intake mani.

slammed_93_hatch

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**** emissions
i'll give em some damn emissions.......
seriously bro, tell them you're the great halo

will the B20Vtec not pass????</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C5_EK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Or Alabama....where people have never even heard of the word emissions, the only emissions they know about are the ones that come out of their ***

P.S. IM DRUNK</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1hotcivicSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">come to florida </TD></TR></TABLE>

alright i ALWAYS come check out the CA smog questions, because i have fair amount of information on them.

but why the **** do you feel the need to come in here and ad your worthless bullshit post's to something that is actually technically pertanant.

and to address the tech question, no b20 alone will not pass, it is a "truck/SUV" motor and you can not put those into a passenger car. at least no 92+ passenger cars.

and no vtec head with non vtec block will pass.

Shawn C

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ok you &lt;edited drunk words&gt;, don't come in here runnin your mouth about &lt;edited drunk words&gt;. i was askin him if the B20Vtec setup he had was the reason he couldn't pass.

he and i have spoken before, and his car seems to run fairly well, so my question was basically if his setup was the reason he didn't pass, was the presence of the swap itsself the problem, or was his ecu tune the bad factor.

i hate when people &lt;edited drunk words&gt; at early hours in the morning in here.

there was no reason to quote me or reply to anything i said. your post was &lt;edited drunk words&gt;.

good night man

&lt;edited drunk words&gt;


Modified by ShadyEH2 at 12:37 PM 4/29/2004

slammed_93_hatch

yep


Modified by slammed_93_hatch at 8:42 PM 4/29/2004

Shawn C

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ha ha ha,

sorry bro i was drunk last night.

didn't even read the post, lol. i just realized it was halo and he was havin smog probs. i apologise

to answer the post, try replacing the K&N with a cheap parts store filter, just for the smog test. it'll flow less air, and will probably let you pass

again, sorry for all that crap last night, 10 shots of jager will do that to you......

drewbie*

a stock cat would help too.

Spade

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Actually that is the problem. High flow cats do not scrub for NOX. They are only OBDI cats.

In 1996 it became a requirement to scrub the NOX so the cats are now 3 way as apposed to the OBDI 2 way.

I found that out the hard way too.

Hybrid96EK

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Actually that is the problem. High flow cats do not scrub for NOX. They are only OBDI cats.

In 1996 it became a requirement to scrub the NOX so the cats are now 3 way as apposed to the OBDI 2 way.

I found that out the hard way too.</TD></TR></TABLE>

How is the cat going to "scrub" for NOX? NOX is produced by high cylinder temperatures. Its not going to matter too much what you do with your cat if your failing due to NOX.

Race Egr

run a stock cat and shove a rag in the aribox lol emissions sucks

BLK99VTECR

feel for you bro, my JDM B18c just got threw emissions yesterday, down here all they do on obd2 cars is do a OBD2 scan but my car is converted to obd1 . Tell your friend he needs to apply himself more at his job cause there are many ways he can get you around your problem.

1hotcivicSi

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alright i ALWAYS come check out the CA smog questions, because i have fair amount of information on them.

but why the **** do you feel the need to come in here and ad your worthless bullshit post's to something that is actually technically pertanant.

and to address the tech question, no b20 alone will not pass, it is a "truck/SUV" motor and you can not put those into a passenger car. at least no 92+ passenger cars.

and no vtec head with non vtec block will pass.</TD></TR></TABLE>

calm down we didnt hurt anyone acting like we just murderd sumone its a joke hmmmmmmm

slammed_93_hatch

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calm down we didnt hurt anyone acting like we just murderd sumone its a joke hmmmmmmm </TD></TR></TABLE>

i was voice my opinion about stupid *** comments and i wasn't getting worked up, yes i used strong words but, i was not aware that useing strong words= getting worked up