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Old 04-07-2004, 01:33 PM
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Hello. I have an EG Civic coupe looking to swap in 2001 Integra typeR suspension components. Not only for the handling and rear disc but also the 5 lug design. My question is what do I need to get for the back and front. Looking at the pics I would have to replace the rear trailing arm, rear lower control arm, wheel bearing assembly including hub... Would I need the upper control arm? And in the front, is all I need the knuckle? Would there be any major difference between the damper fork on my car and the ITR? Should I also change the lower and upper fron control arms? Just a few quick questions any help is appreciated. By the way I will be putting SSBC Big brake kits on the front and back so no one chimne in with "well rotors and calipers" No ****... Just to avoid any problems before they start. Again thanks for the help.
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Dude, it looks like you did a search on this already. Because, you seem to already know what needs to be done.
Some, people have discussed the big brake upgrade for the five lug swap as well. Hope, I have been of some help.

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Well I certainly know what I am doing, or at least for the most part. My thing is I am buying all these parts brand new from the Acura Dealer I work at so say for instance if I don't need upper control arms, that'll save be ~$200+. The rear lower control arms of the TypeR look much different than the regular Integra ones. So I know I will want to go with these to stiffen up the ride in the *** end. I just need to find someone who has done this conversion. I don't have time to search since my only internet access is here at work. Again any help would be greatly appreciated...
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When I did mine I used the front knuckle (complete), and the rear spindles, I didn't swap the whole trailing arm. As long as you have ebrake cables for the rear disc, and the front and back brake lines (front are longer, and rear is completely different from the drums) you're good.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92b16vx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When I did mine I used the front knuckle (complete), and the rear spindles, I didn't swap the whole trailing arm. As long as you have ebrake cables for the rear disc, and the front and back brake lines (front are longer, and rear is completely different from the drums) you're good.</TD></TR></TABLE>Someone told me the e-brake cables will work from my car, not 100% posative on that. A major reason for me doing this conversion is to have the handling of a typeR. Those rear trailing arms and lower control arms are beaffy. Thanks for the help and any other input is greatly appreciated. HAPPY TUNING!!!
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Trialing arms are the same, bushings are harder.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92b16vx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Trialing arms are the same, bushings are harder.</TD></TR></TABLE> Eventhough my car still has the standard rear drum? I am looking at the part numbers here for the trailing arm. Any parts that match the EG Civic will have an SR3 in the part number, ie 52341-sr3-000. Looking at the part numbers to the trailing arms. They are 52370-ST7-R02 and 52371-ST7-R02. I guess I will have to call a Honda dealer and have them check for the part number in their system. I strongly believe there is slightly different geometry than the stock EG Civic. I know for a fact that the lower control arms on the ITR are much different than those of the regular integra or the civic for that matter. If your posative these rear trailing arms are the same I need hard evidence. There is too much hear say that goes around. Thanks for all the help...
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Sorry guys, this thread needs be be back at the top of the list. I still need more detailed feedback.
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try import auto salavage and ask for larry jr., he will hook you up...
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The bare minimum your going to need are the hubs front and back and the calipers and brake lines. Your probably going to need the parking brake cables. I know the drum brake cable is too short when going disk in the back from the regular teg. The R and tegs and abs civics have the 10.3 front brakes. They also have bigger front bearings than the 9.3 inch lower model front brakes.

You can keep your stock knuckles but you will have the smaller bearing. Whenever you take the hubs out new bearings are needed anyways. The rear hubs have the bearing inserted in it already.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaFanatic708 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Eventhough my car still has the standard rear drum? I am looking at the part numbers here for the trailing arm. Any parts that match the EG Civic will have an SR3 in the part number, ie 52341-sr3-000. Looking at the part numbers to the trailing arms. They are 52370-ST7-R02 and 52371-ST7-R02. I guess I will have to call a Honda dealer and have them check for the part number in their system. I strongly believe there is slightly different geometry than the stock EG Civic. I know for a fact that the lower control arms on the ITR are much different than those of the regular integra or the civic for that matter. If your posative these rear trailing arms are the same I need hard evidence. There is too much hear say that goes around. Thanks for all the help...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Even the drum brakes trailing arms are the same, and the LCA's are shaped different. As far as different geometry, different wheel base, different width, but it's all relative.
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Thanks for the great info guys, i really appreciate it. I certainly can save myself some big bucks by not replacing the rear trailing arms. I probably will go with the ITR front knuckle to have the larger wheel bearing. So my list is now at:
Front Knuckle and hub (lugs etc.)
Rear lower control arm
Rear hub
SSBC Big brakes front and back ITR...

My next question is about brake boosters and master cylinders... Since I will need to move a lot more fluid to push bigger brakes (and rear disc for that matter) will an ITR booster/MC bolt up to an EG? Any major mods? Does the ITR big brake kit contain an upgraded booster and MC? Just want to make sure this $ is providing the best stopping power it can. Again Thanks guys...
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anyone? Being able to push the proper amount of fluid is very important in this situation...
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I have heard that the steel fluid line would have to be re-bent to match up to the ITR MC but the cylinder will bolt up. Can anyone verify...?
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