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Old 02-19-2003, 09:08 PM
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would it make sense to put an aftermarket skunk 2 manifold on any engine without first upgrading the throttle body?
what gains could i expect out of a b16 with an aftermarket intake and a manifold with stock throttle body?
is it imparitive that i buy a bigger throttle body to accommodate for the manifold or can i have a local machine shop mill it out / port it for me?
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Default Re: Intake Manifold question (turbomonkeyexpress)

if you're going turbo soon, ive heard the jg intake manifold helps quite abit more.
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Default Re: Intake Manifold question (civic_sir94)

skunk isnt that tight for turbo, but really tight for NA...u dont have to get a bigger tb...stock b16 is what 60mm??err i dont know, but you can get it ported...or get an ITR ported one, or GSR etc...
Old 02-19-2003, 09:19 PM
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ya ive heard the same, but alas, funding and patients do not permet for a turbo.
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Default Re: Intake Manifold question (turbomonkeyexpress)

get a skun2 or an itr intake manifold, ive heard they're basically the same thing.
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Default Re: Intake Manifold question (civic_sir94)

get a skun2 or an itr intake manifold, ive heard they're basically the same thing.
pretty much the same exact thing.....if you got cash go JG
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ooh.. i guess my screen name is a bit misleading... Turbomonkey.. heh.. but really, that's only a far off dream for my midlife crisis. right now im looking to do a "crazy bitch" N/A setup... but what your saying is that i can get away with not buying a new TB and still expirence gains? what kindof HP are we talking about here? 5-15 ish, plus roughly 10 from a Short ram AEM?
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not plus 10 from intake, lol...maybe like 10 supposed for the IM, and a good 3 for intake...short ram...but decent gains...
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Default Re: Intake Manifold question (hybridvteceg)

step on the gas petal and feel it kindof gains?
would i be better off investing in a full CAI?
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get the IM. wont feel CAI..will feel IM
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Default Re: Intake Manifold question (hybridvteceg)

so what, buy the IM, install on stock air box, then upgrade to CAI later to improve upon performance?
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Default Re: Intake Manifold question (turbomonkeyexpress)

so what, buy the IM, install on stock air box, then upgrade to CAI later to improve upon performance?
you could do that
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Default Re: Intake Manifold question (HybridHackBatch)

im not a fan of air intakes. they might give you 2 hp on AVERAGE. get the skunk IM and later on port &polish your head. port match it while youre at it.
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dont port match it decreases power because it changes the way the air goes into the head...i was talking to someone at InlinePro and they dynod a head that was not matche, then the same that was, and it lost power..
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im not a fan of air intakes. they might give you 2 hp on AVERAGE.
Dont be ignorant.. 2hp maybe average for a d15z7 with a short ram but in most cases the stock airbox/filter will end up being very restrictive, and you will see significant gains, on average 4-7whp for a CAI. You try running a decent NA setup using the stock civic airbox.. your car will run out of breath faster then a fat man on a stairmaster.
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Default Re: Intake Manifold question (Nine)

i picked up a skunk2 manifold yesterday for 150 bucks Was only used for 4 days Im installing it tonight, so i can let you know the gains.....i have a AEM CAI though.


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As far as the Stock Air Box vs. Short Ram Intake debate, it might be of interest to note that Jackson Racing's take on it was to use the stock airbox with a high flow filter. Of course that was a couple of years ago when the book came out that had that info in it so their beliefs may have changed. It may have been an angle to sell their brand of filter.

But Im sure they had done more R&D than your average Joe at the time of the printing of their recommendation.

Take it for what it is worth...
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ha ha nine.. a fat man on a stair master.. good analogy!
and who00knows, thanx man, any info is greatly appreciated! take some pix of the install if you have a digi-cam

hey, are there any coolant lines i have to plug or jet while doing the install or is it all nut's and bolts?
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update:

i can get a brand new one shipped TO MY DOOR for arround $240 ($220 if i pick it up)
(other local shop's wanted $270 andd $280, PLUS shipping and handleing)
Anyhow, shop's called Driver's Image located in Illinois if anyone's wondering
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Default Re: Intake Manifold question (Jon Black)

As far as the Stock Air Box vs. Short Ram Intake debate, it might be of interest to note that Jackson Racing's take on it was to use the stock airbox with a high flow filter. Of course that was a couple of years ago when the book came out that had that info in it so their beliefs may have changed. It may have been an angle to sell their brand of filter.
But Im sure they had done more R&D than your average Joe at the time of the printing of their recommendation.

Take it for what it is worth...
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A few companies do that actually.. the spoon filter drop in being the most popular I believe, but even the OEM "CAI" airbox with a drop-in will probably lead to more than 2 hp on AVERAGE. And as you probably know from replacing the tubing inside the OEM intake, their design does lead a lot to be desired of. (Am I allowed to end a sentence with a preposition.. that sounds right but doesnt look right.) Anyway, let us know ur thoughts on the Skunk2 IM.


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Default Re: Intake Manifold question (Nine)

may even take picture doccumentation of it all..
what is the average time of install for someone that's never done it before?
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Intake Man. make a big diffrence. I have used the skunk 2 on a gsr and it made more mid-range power than I expected. You can see a greater increase if you have more done ie cams header exaust. Thanks Mack
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so we've established that i will see power even with stock intake and TB.. but should soon upgrade them. stupid question, but do i need any kind of gasket between the manifold and block? would it come in the kit?
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yeah its just an IM gasket is all..not in kit, get from honda for cheap...
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Mm... Autozone want's $13.50 for one


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