Bense

To end all myths and nonsense.
* There are 4 bolts holding the steering rack onto the crossmember:
* Two larger bolts with 17mm heads that bolt on the drivers side require 0 modification
* Two smaller/shorter bolts with 14mm heads that bolt on the passenger side. This requires minor 'massaging'

The smaller passenger side bolts use a U shaped plate, that I believe may be called a "buckle". Well this buckle is made to fit around the steering rack and has two holes that align with threads on the cross-member.

The non-powersteering rack is thinner (I'll spare y'all from an obvious analogy) than the much thicker power-steering rack. I couldn't find the gsr buckle/bracket, so I put the one from my civic in a vice and spread it apart to fit over the larger shaft. I then proceeded to use longer bolts which allowed me to get the threads started, and then use the bolts to bend the buckle around the larger diameter power steering rack. After the buckle has taken new shape, the original bolts can then be used, if desired.

TOOLS REQUIRED: Longer bolts + vice.

Why did I want to do this? It gives you a quicker-ratio steering rack for cheap, without having to spend top dollar for the a re-engineered steering rack, such as the Quaife. Plus, some might find it desirable to have power steering.

Also, Integra racks are 2.98 LTL.


Edited, cleaned up over a decade later on Halloween 2016.

Bense

I finished the swap today.

Clearing up mis/partial information...

You NEED to either have the universal joint from the dc2. The reason that some people have said this and some people haven't is because it all depends on where you disconnect the column from the rack. If one were to take the bolt out on the side of the universal joint that is connected to the column, leaving the universal joint on the rack, they would be COMPLETELY OBLIVIOUS to the difference.

The difference is that the diameter of the splined end on the dc2 rack is LARGER than the civic rack. You can either order a dc2 joint, or a 96-97 del sol vtec uninversal joint.

please note that part may be the same on say a 96-97 del sol S and a del sol Si, not sure. But just order a 96-97 del sol vtec joint to make sure.

part numbers:
DEL SOL 96 2DR V-TEC 5MT KA 53323-S04-003
97 gsr (should be the same for all tegs 53323-S04-003
notice that they're the same part numbers.

#6 in the picture



Modified by Bense at 4:12 PM 2/26/2007

Bense

Just for further clarification, (i'm afriad I worded it incorrectly)

Leave the universal joint on the integra steering rack and disconnect the joint from the integra column = no need to order

disconnect the joint from the integra rack and leave the joint on the integra column = need to order the part

It all depends on how you recieve/install the integra rack onto your civic. This is why some people say ZERO modification, etc.

Bense

One last thing. Just for a confirmation.

the integra rack is 2.98 LTL. I believe there was a change in 1999 on the racks. I will ask the guy I got it from what year the dc2 was that I got this from.





EDITED to correct 2.95 to 2.98 LTL as 2.98 is the correct info. (hard to tell the difference by hand) Making this a tighter ratio than the quaife unit


Modified by Bense at 3:12 PM 7/29/2006

Rodney

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bense &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">One last thing. Just for a confirmation.

the integra rack is 2.95 LTL. I believe there was a change in 1999 on the racks. I will ask the guy I got it from what year the dc2 was that I got this from.
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all dc2 racks are the same, 2.98 LTL, 16:1 ratio. this includes all years (94-01), including itr.

Bense

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rodney &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">all dc2 racks are the same, 2.98 LTL, 16:1 ratio. this includes all years (94-01), including itr. </TD></TR></TABLE>

listen to this man, he helped me out with my questions. In fact, 95% of the information that I gathered came from his older posts, I'm just plopping this into one thread.

big to Rodney for the information.


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Next step is modifying the steering column for a steering quickener


Another note, for those that don't believe that the 94-01 teg PS line won't bolt up to the d-series ps pump.

please note that I call it gsr just because I don't feel like typing 94-01 integra


Modified by Bense at 3:14 PM 7/29/2006

cbmprelude

what was the stock steering ratio on your car?

Padawan

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rodney &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

all dc2 racks are the same, 2.98 LTL, 16:1 ratio. this includes all years (94-01), including itr. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Not according to the sales literature.

Bense

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Padawan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not according to the sales literature. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah, I stumbled into this two nights ago in the archives. I'll pull the info later and put it here.

thehatchninja

nice rack.

Rodney

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Padawan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not according to the sales literature. </TD></TR></TABLE>

are you referring to the 2000/2001 itr with listed ratio of 15.7:1? if so, that is incorrect. it even says right on the bottom of the borchure " although descriptions are believed to be correct, accuracy cannot be guaranteed". i have had both a 99 gsr and a 00 itr rack apart myself, and they are exactly the same.

Padawan

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rodney &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are you referring to the 2000/2001 itr with listed ratio of 15.7:1? if so, that is incorrect. it even says right on the bottom of the borchure " although descriptions are believed to be correct, accuracy cannot be guaranteed". i have had both a 99 gsr and a 00 itr rack apart myself, and they are exactly the same. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, that's the brochure I was referring to. It's odd that such a typo would show up in those particular brochures after so many years, but a check of the standard Integra brochures from 1998 and 2001 confirms identical turns lock-to-lock, as you stated. The only other discrepancy is a difference in part numbers for the rack "housing sub-assembly" between the 1998 and 2000 model, though from what I can tell, most (or if not all) of the other parts seem to be the same.

Bense

Of all the things that I did on my car for my engine/trans build. This is the most useful one. Because regardless of the speed that you're going and rate that you're accelerating, you can still feel the difference that this has made

Rodney

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i totally agree. my new car has a 8:1 rack, and will undoubtedly be insanely fast in slolams.

Bense

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rodney &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i totally agree. my new car has a 8:1 rack, and will undoubtedly be insanely fast in slolams. </TD></TR></TABLE>

2:1 steering quickener? I'm thinking about a 1.5:1 or a 2:1 in the future.

Bense

Got Power steering hooked up. The civic resivoir has three lines. Integra has two. I used a civic one and plugged the smaller third line that's not needed.

Not really needed but I think that it will help with sticky tires in autox

So then the only extra required part is a bolt to plug that extra hose lol

audiophyle_247

I just finished doing this exact project, and glad to be rid of my 19:1 ratio rack.

After installation & everything my steering is now harder than my manual rack was, seems to not be working at all.

Pump works, fluid is circulating, but I used everything from a civic & got the rack from a dc2. The only thing I am unsure about on my setup is the lines that feed into the rack, I wonder if they are backwards.


The lines only fit one way, as one is bigger than the other. On mine the fluid return line is bigger than the fluid feed line, is this how yours is?

And for the steering column joint, #6 in your pic, all you needed was the one from a dc2 or a 96-97 Sol Vtec? I drilled mine out & clamped it on, temporarilly that is until I could find the right part. So the part number you listed will fit the larger diameter rack's post & fit the steering columns smaller diameter post?

Wish I would have found this topic sooner

EDIT: Also, your pass side bracket you used. I had the bracket for the ps rack & it is not only wider but a lot deeper too. The ps bracket does not fit the original mounting holes, it is too wide. I had to elongate the holes so the bolts could go into the mount, its a tight fit too.

Bense

I think that you spent more time creating that image in paint than I spent connecting the lines. all you need is the two 10mm bolts and pliers for the hose clamps.

audiophyle_247

Pic took 2 minutes, I found out today that the Civic lines are wrong. The DC2 rack's fluid inlet diameter is the same as the Civics fluid outlet hose diameter. And the DC2's fluid outlet hose diameter is the same as the Civic's Inlet hose diameter. Thus the hoses I have fit perfectly into the rack, EXCEPT they are in fact backwards. So you HAVE to use the DC2 lines, the Civics will not work.

JeffBro

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bense &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">listen to this man, he helped me out with my questions. In fact, 95% of the information that I gathered came from his older posts, I'm just plopping this into one thread.

big to Rodney for the information.


#######################################
Next step is modifying the steering column for a steering quickener


Another note, for those that don't believe that the 94-01 teg PS line won't bolt up to the d-series ps pump.

please note that I call it gsr just because I don't feel like typing 94-01 integra


Modified by Bense at 3:14 PM 7/29/2006</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not all gsr's have the same powersteering line fitting. I am not really sure which years are different then others but I did find a gsr powersteering pump that uses the same type of line as civics. Just to warn people other there reading this.

Bense

bump because if it weren't for this "mod" I would have surely PLOWWED into a deer on I-26 saturday night.

Gunns

If all 94-01 Integras have the same 2.98 LTL why does Quaife sell a kit for 94-01 Integras to change the rack to 3.25 LTL????

Info from the Quaife website.

http://www.quaifeamerica.com/s...n.htm

QUAIFE QSR Quick-Ratio Rack and Pinion Kits LTL Part Number List

Honda Civic, 1988-91 LHD NEW 2.83 60.435.010K $239.00
Honda Civic, 1992-95 LHD NEW 3.25 60.435.011K 239.00
Acura Integra 1994-2001 LHD NEW 3.25 60.435.011K 239.00

Now I dont know if I should get a Quaife for my CX rack or just get a DC2 rack and Loop the power steering.

Bense

It's probably cause you can take the non-ps rack from the 92-95 cx/vx and put it on a teg.

Hence the same quaife part numbers.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Gunns &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Honda Civic, 1992-95 LHD NEW 3.25 60.435.011K 239.00
Acura Integra 1994-2001 LHD NEW 3.25 60.435.011K 239.00 </TD></TR></TABLE>

6gSI

oh this topic is epic! track season is coming soon and i need to get this mod done... my 19 turns lock to lock isnt cutting it!

crimsonv4mpire

bump for a useful thread, i was searching for information about a teg racg into a del sol and got the step by step and more! thanks bense