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11-09-2005, 05:17 PM
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individual throttle bodies
whats the deal with individual throttle bodies? i've recently seen them on b-series motors here on hondatech and was just wondering if it actually increases performance. any info on them would be greatly appreciated for i would like to get some for my hatch.
11-09-2005, 05:21 PM
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Re: individual throttle bodies (j4yd3um4lyf3)
this may sound stupid but i am noob, do you still have an intake if u go itb or do the itb's just suck the air in directly through each throttle body. sorry but i am new to itb's
11-09-2005, 05:22 PM
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Re: individual throttle bodies (j4yd3um4lyf3)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by j4yd3um4lyf3 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">increaces performance alot... alot more responsive too</TD></TR></TABLE>
care to tell him why? and define.. a lot. .. keep the tech in responses
care to tell him why? and define.. a lot. .. keep the tech in responses
11-09-2005, 05:23 PM
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Re: individual throttle bodies (j4yd3um4lyf3)
very nice for n/a motor. its actually pretty easy to do as well. most use cbr954 throttle bodies and the runners off any d series head. then use a golden eagle vacuum module and thats the main part. tps plugs right up and you run vaccum for map off either spare d series injector ports or spare cbr injector ports, depending on where you want your injectors. 
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11-09-2005, 05:30 PM
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Re: individual throttle bodies (CooBlueDAB)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CooBlueDAB »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
care to tell him why? and define.. a lot. .. keep the tech in responses</TD></TR></TABLE>
obviously ther gona gain more because you can suck a whole lot more air in through 4 42-45mm throttle bodies than even a 70mm throttle body with a after market intake manifold... and its gona be alot more responsive because its not emptying the air out of a chaimber its sucking it straight out of the engine bay
as for exact dyno number i dont know exact numbers
so now you can **** off and go play uno with your self...
care to tell him why? and define.. a lot. .. keep the tech in responses</TD></TR></TABLE>
obviously ther gona gain more because you can suck a whole lot more air in through 4 42-45mm throttle bodies than even a 70mm throttle body with a after market intake manifold... and its gona be alot more responsive because its not emptying the air out of a chaimber its sucking it straight out of the engine bay
as for exact dyno number i dont know exact numbers
so now you can **** off and go play uno with your self...
11-09-2005, 05:31 PM
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Re: individual throttle bodies (jgt8229)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jgt8229 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks for answering that, i figured that but was never sure. what if it sucked in a leaf 
lol </TD></TR></TABLE>
than you're fucked lol...
http://www.homemadeturbo.com/tech_projects/itb/ this is a prety good write up on it if you want to do it
lol </TD></TR></TABLE>than you're fucked lol...
http://www.homemadeturbo.com/tech_projects/itb/ this is a prety good write up on it if you want to do it
11-09-2005, 05:47 PM
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Re: individual throttle bodies (jgt8229)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jgt8229 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">itb's are also sexy </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, cause we all know that's a great reason to buy them.
In my opinion, any NA set-up should have ITBs. Rather than having each cylinder suck in the air from a chamber with turbulant air. The ITBs allow the cylinders to suck in a LOT more air. And more air=more fuel=more power.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Yeah, cause we all know that's a great reason to buy them.
In my opinion, any NA set-up should have ITBs. Rather than having each cylinder suck in the air from a chamber with turbulant air. The ITBs allow the cylinders to suck in a LOT more air. And more air=more fuel=more power.
11-09-2005, 06:20 PM
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honda tuning did a topic about itbs on a d series a few monthes ago. the results were amazing.
on a d16y8, it put down around 140 hp and 130 lbs of tq. and that was with stock internals. the only mods were the itb's themselves and tuning.
not bad for a 250 dollar part. but i bet it sure uses alot more fuel too. be lucky to see 15 mpg.
on a d16y8, it put down around 140 hp and 130 lbs of tq. and that was with stock internals. the only mods were the itb's themselves and tuning.
not bad for a 250 dollar part. but i bet it sure uses alot more fuel too. be lucky to see 15 mpg.
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well im refering to the d-series itbs for 250.
b series, well i dunno.
no they have no filter. thats the chance you take with them. alot of people use panty hose for daily driving.
b series, well i dunno.
no they have no filter. thats the chance you take with them. alot of people use panty hose for daily driving.
11-09-2005, 07:56 PM
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panty hose dont sound like a good idea to me, it gets hot under there remember?
but i bet one could always buy some of the small cone filters and try to retro them on theere in some way.
i dont like the idea of having no air filter
but i bet one could always buy some of the small cone filters and try to retro them on theere in some way.
i dont like the idea of having no air filter
11-09-2005, 08:00 PM
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i don't think itb's r made to be daily driven on. so unless your using them for racing, its pointless getting them, 4 air filters will restrict airflow quite a bit,
11-09-2005, 08:38 PM
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Re: individual throttle bodies (d_SUPAl1l)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by d_SUPAl1l »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whats the deal with individual throttle bodies? i've recently seen them on b-series motors here on hondatech and was just wondering if it actually increases performance. any info on them would be greatly appreciated for i would like to get some for my hatch.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Just like with any major performance part, w/out proper tuning and the parts to back it up, you could actually lose power, or cause major damage to your motor.
There's plenty of filters available, from bare screen mesh, to individual foam elements, to full 1-piece ITG chamber filters, you don't have to drive with them open if you don't want to.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93egsedan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah i hear that.
too risky for me. yall have fun with em
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I will
Just like with any major performance part, w/out proper tuning and the parts to back it up, you could actually lose power, or cause major damage to your motor.
There's plenty of filters available, from bare screen mesh, to individual foam elements, to full 1-piece ITG chamber filters, you don't have to drive with them open if you don't want to.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93egsedan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah i hear that.
too risky for me. yall have fun with em
</TD></TR></TABLE>I will
11-09-2005, 09:14 PM
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Re: individual throttle bodies (d_SUPAl1l)
Is it true that a raised hood in the back will cause these to get more air flow? Or for cooling purposes? I'm very curious about what people think on this.
11-09-2005, 09:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM-EJ1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is it true that a raised hood in the back will cause these to get more air flow? Or for cooling purposes? I'm very curious about what people think on this.</TD></TR></TABLE>
makes sense
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rodrez. »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just like with any major performance part, w/out proper tuning and the parts to back it up, you could actually lose power, or cause major damage to your motor.
There's plenty of filters available, from bare screen mesh, to individual foam elements, to full 1-piece ITG chamber filters, you don't have to drive with them open if you don't want to.
I will </TD></TR></TABLE>
good info, since there are filters available, if i do my mini me and build it a bit i might do ITB's. wouldnt you need something like hondata or something fully programmable to run these, so you can get correct air/fuel mixes and such? (i know very little about engines, so i try to learn what i can from here )
makes sense
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rodrez. »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just like with any major performance part, w/out proper tuning and the parts to back it up, you could actually lose power, or cause major damage to your motor.
There's plenty of filters available, from bare screen mesh, to individual foam elements, to full 1-piece ITG chamber filters, you don't have to drive with them open if you don't want to.
I will </TD></TR></TABLE>
good info, since there are filters available, if i do my mini me and build it a bit i might do ITB's. wouldnt you need something like hondata or something fully programmable to run these, so you can get correct air/fuel mixes and such? (i know very little about engines, so i try to learn what i can from here
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11-09-2005, 09:27 PM
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Re: individual throttle bodies (93egsedan)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93egsedan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
good info, since there are filters available, if i do my mini me and build it a bit i might do ITB's. wouldnt you need something like hondata or something fully programmable to run these, so you can get correct air/fuel mixes and such? (i know very little about engines, so i try to learn what i can from here )</TD></TR></TABLE>
I would definitely look for something programmable to tune with.
good info, since there are filters available, if i do my mini me and build it a bit i might do ITB's. wouldnt you need something like hondata or something fully programmable to run these, so you can get correct air/fuel mixes and such? (i know very little about engines, so i try to learn what i can from here
)</TD></TR></TABLE>I would definitely look for something programmable to tune with.
11-09-2005, 09:34 PM
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Re: individual throttle bodies (rodrez.)
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Ive seen some motors run fine on itbs, but it requires some serious tuning and, if you wanna go turbo, youre gonna hafta skip this idea, but for a na build they are great!
Ive seen some motors run fine on itbs, but it requires some serious tuning and, if you wanna go turbo, youre gonna hafta skip this idea, but for a na build they are great!
11-09-2005, 09:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FerioEG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Ive seen some motors run fine on itbs, but it requires some serious tuning and, if you wanna go turbo, youre gonna hafta skip this idea, but for a na build they are great!</TD></TR></TABLE>
dont have too, i saw pics of a guy running ITB's and made a custom manifold so he could hook up the tubing and such for the turbo
Ive seen some motors run fine on itbs, but it requires some serious tuning and, if you wanna go turbo, youre gonna hafta skip this idea, but for a na build they are great!</TD></TR></TABLE>
dont have too, i saw pics of a guy running ITB's and made a custom manifold so he could hook up the tubing and such for the turbo