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Old 01-23-2013, 08:35 AM
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Hey HT I am trying to determine the production date and location of the factory that produced this B16 cylinder head.

Here is the stamp, it's obviously a PR3 b16 head, the fourth casting type (pr-FOUR)


According to my research here, the head was produced in 1999.



These ^^^ markings lead me to believe that the head was stamped 9|9 - 0|8 - 0|1 - and either ninety or six.

This makes me think that the head was produced on August 1st, 1999. The last number (90 or 6) has been rumored to identify the production plant that that produced the head.

SOMEONE PLZ EXPLAIN!
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There is a serial number stamped on the head as you can see in the picture - it looks like it's printed and may or may not be OEM. The head might have been reconditioned by a machine shop but that wouldn't make sense that they put that number on there.

As you can see the number is

0824000 or 0824089 but I can't tell. Would this be the individual serial number stamped on the head from the production plant?


This was the manifold that the head was originally sold with. It looks like a p30 but I can't be sure.


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2000 B16A2 cylinder head,

Valve cover is not original to the head
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Not sure why this didn't show up here - it was very helpful...

Originally Posted by from my email
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As for the intake mani...on the back of the plenum above the port for the purge solenoid line to go, will have it stamped "p30" if it is one...

ALL b16, b17 and itr heads will be a pr3-x and all b16, b17 and itr's have been known to have a 1,2,3, or 4 after the pr3. You can identify what the head is from by the internals.

auto b16's have single valve springs on both sides
manual sir1 and 2's, b17, b16a2/3 will have dual springs on the intake valves
itr/ctr will have dual on both intake and exhaust.
Cams are the most easy thing to swap in the head so I wouldnt judge by those really
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Default Re: Identify this B16 head!

Originally Posted by beecee18
2000 B16A2 cylinder head,

Valve cover is not original to the head
What makes you think it's not the original VC?

I agree with 00 B16A2, I will verify by checking the valve springs. Any idea what the last number-wheel means?

...or those hash-dash marks. They were the same on my b16a3 94 del sol v head.
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Its a gsr valve cover...either a p61(92-93 gsr) or a p72 (94+)

Gsr valve cover have "dohc" larger than "vtec"...they also do not have the "H" logo above honda motor co

look on the underneath side of the VC and it will be stamped p61 or p72
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Originally Posted by JuggerNaut-CTR
Its a gsr valve cover...either a p61(92-93 gsr) or a p72 (94+)

Gsr valve cover have "dohc" larger than "vtec"...they also do not have the "H" logo above honda motor co

look on the underneath side of the VC and it will be stamped p61 or p72
Yes everything you say checks out correctly. This is the pic of my b16a3 valve cover from a del sol V.... exactly as you said.


How come you deleted the post I quoted from my email? And heh, your signature looks just like mine..

Thanks.
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I deleted it because I was going completed retarded I guess...got a little carried away without fully reading your first post. Missed the production plate part somehow and missed the part on it being stamped 9/9

It looked like I was trying to give a lesson that wasnt pertinant to the original post. Was trying to help but felt silly afterwards lol
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Default Re: Identify this B16 head!

Originally Posted by Corksil
What makes you think it's not the original VC?

I agree with 00 B16A2, I will verify by checking the valve springs. Any idea what the last number-wheel means?

...or those hash-dash marks. They were the same on my b16a3 94 del sol v head.
Juggernaut explained the valve cover...

Im not exactly sure of the last set of numbers, most likely irrelavant.
It is def a date/shift code, Yours reads 06 for sure
But I am sure of the head being produced in 99 designated for a 2000 production vehicle.
And Civic Si is all we got A2's with in US
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yes it seems you guys are correct. A b18c valve cover. None of the jdm b16 VC I hve seen look like the one in my picture.

I'll try to verify what the stamp inside of the VC is. Juggernaut can you tell me where that stamp is underneat the VC? I will hve the seller check it out and tell me the stamp before I go hve a look at the head.

I wonder why a b18c valve cover would hve ended up on this b16 head... hmmm

Anyways thanks guys.
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'Cause it fits. That's probably why. Overthinking it.
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Yeah that would explain why the GSR valve cover is on the b16 head for sale.

That would NOT explain why the original valve cover is not on the b16 head for sale.

People don't just go around trading valve covers for fun. What happened to the original.
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Default Re: Identify this B16 head!

Originally Posted by Corksil
Yeah that would explain why the GSR valve cover is on the b16 head for sale.

That would NOT explain why the original valve cover is not on the b16 head for sale.

People don't just go around trading valve covers for fun. What happened to the original.
Sure they do. How else do you explain your situation? A VC is not a power producing element so what else could it be? How do you explain the phony Mugen valve covers? The car I bought came with a chrome Type R VC. Reason? Somebody probably liked the way it looked.

Overthinking it to be sure. But really. Who cares why? If it bothers you swap the right on one and sell that one.
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Default Re: Identify this B16 head!

Thanks grumbling mark. I appreciate your help. You can be a very helpful guy if you're not grumbling.

Just trying to affirm exactly what parts I am looking at here for sale.

You should peep my build, it's shaping up to be an interesting project and I'm not as much of a hacker as I first was when I first showed up around here back in 08.

Bummmmmmmmmmmp
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