pjr710

ok guys .. ive never installed a rear sway bar .. i have a st rsb for my 95 ex coupe .. it installs with all of my stock hardware .. the ends mount to the bottom of my strut .. i was just wondering .. before i go about doing this .. do i have to grease anything .. or make sure bolts are torqued right? .. ive never done this so im just wondering what other things you do besides just bolt it up ..

also .. is there a certain way i should tighten my bushings .. like do i make them really tight .. or keep them looser?

edit: its used by the way .. so its greased a little
19mm too big? will my subframe tear?
i like to take hard corners every day .. just a daily driver tho


Modified by pjr710 at 11:33 AM 5/7/2006


Modified by pjr710 at 11:34 AM 5/7/2006

existanzcivicb20

you tighten the bushing while the car is on the ground

as far as the bolts just torque them up and that's it nothing to it

pjr710

ok so .. when the cars on the ground .. i thighten the end links as much as i can?

and all the other bolts i just tighten tilll theyre tight .. torque doesnt matter?

pdiggitydogg

No...youre going to break things if you do it that way.

Endlink nuts are 22ft/lbs
Swaybar bolts (@ subframe) are 16ft/lbs

If you dont have a torque wrench...buy one. While youre at it, buy a Helms manual for your car as well.
Going around just making things as tight as you think they should be is a bad idea...

pjr710

thank you pdiggity .. also .. i was just searchin .. and im kind of nervous now about my subframe tearing .. the bar is 19 mm .. and i dont hve the beaks kit or anything like that .. just my subfram .. im not in autox or anything like that .. i just enjoy driving my civic .. and like to take turns around town at about 20mph .. hopefully more w/ this sway bar .. will that have too much stress? .. will i need subframe reinforcement or will i be ok?


btw do u know the torque for the strut bolt .. where i'll be mounting my L bracket?


Modified by pjr710 at 10:19 AM 5/5/2006

pdiggitydogg

Yeah man...youre probably gonna tear it eventually.
Get an ASR kit (ive seen beaks tear several times).
Until then, I wouldnt put it on.

Fixing a subframe will cost you a lot more than the cost of a bracing kit.

EgGriff

heres a howto on installing the rear sway bar (also includes installing the asr rear subframe kit and new lcas)

http://www.georgebelton.com/6g...x.php

as you go through it, he gives you all the tq specs for each bolt. helps a great ammount

Voyage34

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pdiggitydogg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah man...youre probably gonna tear it eventually.
Get an ASR kit (ive seen beaks tear several times).
Until then, I wouldnt put it on.</TD></TR></TABLE>

this is on an eg, and the bar is only 19mm. eg subframe is far sturdier than the ek, and 19mm is about when i would start looking for reinforcement on an ek. he should be fine with just the bar. hell, there are some people running 22mm itr bars on eg's without beaks or anything. i wouldnt recommend that route, but he will be fine without the asr. im not knocking the prodcut, i run one, its just unnecessary in this case

pjr710

well its not an eg .. its an ej .. they are the same i believe .. i have a 95 ex coupe .. same subframe? .. and i hsould be good going around my turns at 20 w/ no srk?

JdmLub

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pjr710 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well its not an eg .. its an ej .. they are the same i believe .. i have a 95 ex coupe .. same subframe? .. and i hsould be good going around my turns at 20 w/ no srk?</TD></TR></TABLE>

eg and ej same thing...

ej = ex coupe

Voyage34

technically an ej, eg is interchangable though. (eg refers to hatch usually but its the same)
yes they are the same subframe

ZipTieGUy

i dont know how your gonna bolt it to your sub frame cuz ex and eg dont have stock welded nuts...

pdiggitydogg

the subframe is sturdy enough for a 14mm bar...not a 19

pjr710

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ZipTieGUy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont know how your gonna bolt it to your sub frame cuz ex and eg dont have stock welded nuts...</TD></TR></TABLE>

whatr u talking about .. i have all the parts for the sway bar .. i just drill the holes a little biggger .. and pop in the bolts .. and screw them in .. what are u saying?

ZipTieGUy

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pjr710 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

whatr u talking about .. i have all the parts for the sway bar .. i just drill the holes a little biggger .. and pop in the bolts .. and screw them in .. what are u saying?</TD></TR></TABLE>

dang homie you got it all wrong.. just because you drill a hole doesnt mean it will hold a bolt. it probly will but once you put a little stress it your whole sway bar will fall out. you gotta get 4 bolts and 4 nuts, metric size 8mx1.25 i believe. you put the bolt on the inside and nut on the outside. puttin the bolt is very difficult so you gotta put it in a wrench, tape one side of the wrench so the bolt wont fall, then feed it through.

st sway bar might be different but thats what i did for my gsr sway bar.

Driven

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pjr710 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do i have to grease anything</TD></TR></TABLE>
Nope.
Would you WANT to, yeah. It'll help alleviate any noise when the suspension is bouncing around.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">.. or make sure bolts are torqued right? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Good idea to torque. But, i've never used a torque wrench on my suspension. i usually just tighten them until the feel very snug. But, it also depends on how strong/weak you are too... with that, my suggestion would be torque wrench.

pjr710

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ZipTieGUy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dang homie you got it all wrong.. just because you drill a hole doesnt mean it will hold a bolt. it probly will but once you put a little stress it your whole sway bar will fall out. you gotta get 4 bolts and 4 nuts, metric size 8mx1.25 i believe. you put the bolt on the inside and nut on the outside. puttin the bolt is very difficult so you gotta put it in a wrench, tape one side of the wrench so the bolt wont fall, then feed it through.

st sway bar might be different but thats what i did for my gsr sway bar. </TD></TR></TABLE>

ok so this is what i have ..



these bolts arents going to work? ..i already tried to see if thyed fit in the stock holes .. and they woudnt .. but i mean this was on a guys car already so i dont understand y it woulding bolt up

pjr710

anyone?

i just would really like to install it this weekend .... and just want to know if its gunna tear or not .. ppl say yes and ppl say no .. so i dont know what to do

pjr710

ttt

-JSpecEk*9-

straight rice!!

pjr710

whatd u mean .. b/c i want my car to handle better?

-JSpecEk*9-

the way ur car looks.

pjr710

o well sorry .. i like it .. any chance u could post an answer to my question?