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jrap1243 12-29-2007 05:23 PM

i dont understand....
 
how is it possible that the 2000 si weighs 400 more pounds than the 1999 ex coupe?? it still weighs 300 more than the 2000 coupe?! i dont get it.. what was added?

Bejita 12-29-2007 05:32 PM

A Friggin' totally different engine and tranny to start.

bluelxfodo 12-29-2007 06:20 PM

rear disc brakes drive train motor

sit22 II 12-29-2007 07:18 PM

Re: i dont understand.... (jrap1243)
 
v-tec sticker on the sides https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif

i_am_a_black_man 12-29-2007 07:37 PM

Re: i dont understand.... (jrap1243)
 
an extra camshaft

jrs95civic 12-29-2007 08:08 PM

Re: i dont understand.... (sit22 II)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sit22 II &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">v-tec sticker on the sides https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif </TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL!!!

1988_96hb 12-29-2007 08:22 PM

Re: i dont understand.... (jrs95civic)
 
the Si came with an oem strut bar that the non si's didnt, and those tweeters by the mirrors. those weigh a ton https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif

97Ej6mike 12-29-2007 08:27 PM

Different body and different motor.

NOFX 12-29-2007 09:23 PM

Remember that there are always certain changes over the years too. Wiring, plugs, slightly different parts, etc.

All those little parts add up.

Civic coupe weights:

DX
1996: (not sure)
1997: 2324
1998: 2342
1999: 2359
2000: 2359

EX
1996: (not sure)
1997: 2507
1998: 2504
1999: 2513
2000: 2513

HX
1996: (not sure)
1997: 2352
1998: 2361
1999: 2370
2000: 2370

Si
1999: 2612
2000: 2601

Remember that the base weights would not include optional parts. It wold only include standard parts. So I didn't include any optional parts unless for comparision against standard parts on another trim. I put a list of optional parts for all coupe trims at the bottom.

Here's what they got that other Civics didn't (or you could click the link in my sig to compare):

- Engine = B16A2 1.6L DOHC VTEC instead of D16Y7 1.6L SOHC non-VTEC, D16Y8 1.6L SOHC VTEC or D16Y5 1.6L SOHC VTEC-E. Also slightly different engine components.

- Transmission = S4C five speed manual instead of S40 five speed manual or A4RA four speed auto or B4RA four speed auto or M4VA CVT.

- Exterior colors. Si got Electron Blue Pearl, which others didn't, but other trims got many other color options.

- Interior colors. Si only was available in Classy Gray.

- Moonroof standard on Si and EX. Not available on DX or HX.

- Front grille different on Si. Also has removeable emblem.

- Front lip on Si (standard) and optional '99-'00 DX, EX and HX much smaller than front lip on '98 DX, EX and HX.

- Front lip on Si (standard) and optional '99-'00 DX, EX and HX slightly larger than front under spoiler on '97-'98 DX, EX and HX.

- Painted side moldings, side view mirrors, plate garnish and sideskirts on Si. Painted side moldings, side view mirrors and plate garnish on EX. Unpainted black side moldings, side view mirrors, plate garnish and sideskirts on DX and HX.

- Side view mirrors are power operated on EX, HX and Si. Side view mirrors on DX are manually operated.

- Muffler garnish is standard on Si. Optional on DX, EX and HX.

- "DOHC VTEC" stickers on the lower rear quarter panel are standard on Si. Not available for DX, EX and HX.

- Alloy wheels (15") standard on Si. Alloy wheels (different types in 14") on DX, EX and HX might be lighter.

- Power windows on EX, HX and Si. Manual windows on DX.

- Power locks on EX and Si. Manual locks on DX ad HX.

- Air conditioning standard on EX and Si. Optional on DX and HX.

- Power steering standard on EX, HX and Si. Optional on DX.

- Cruise control standard on EX and Si.

- Amber interior lighting on Si.

- Tachometer on manual EX, HX and Si. Not on DX.

- Keyless entry standard on EX and Si. Optional on DX and HX.

- Dome light larger on EX and Si and has festoon bulb. Smaller on DX and HX and has mini bulb.

- Map light on '98-'00 EX and Si. Not on '96-'97 EX or DX or HX.

- Trunk light on EX, HX and Si. Not on DX.

- Armrest on EX, HX and Si. Not on DX.

- Headrest in front have holes in them on Si. Not on DX, EX or HX.

- Leather shift knob on Si. Vinyl shift knob on DX, EX and HX.

- Leather shift boot on Si. Pleather shift boot on DX, EX and HX.

- Tweeter kit standard on Si. Optional on DX, EX and HX.

- CD player standard on Si and '99-'00 EX. Optional on DX, '96-'98 EX and HX.

- Front brakes on EX and Si larger (10.3") than on DX and HX (9.5")

- Rear disc brakes on Si. Not on DX, EX or HX.

- ABS only optional on EX. Not on DX, HX or Si.

- Rear sway bar (13mm) on Si. Not on DX, EX or HX.

- Front sway bar (26mm) on Si. 24mm on EX. None on DX or HX.

- Front upper strut bar on Si. Not on DX, EX or HX.

- Exhaust cat location different on EX and Si than on DX and HX.

Optional parts on all trims unless otherwise mentioned (for those interested):
- Front unders spoiler ('97-'98 2/3/4DR)
- Front lip ('98 2DR)
- Rear lip ('98-'00 2DR)
- Rear wing (same for all '96-'98 coupes; same for all '99-'00 coupes)
- Mud guards
- Half nose mask
- Full nose mask
- Car cover
- Fog lights
- Security System
- Ashtray and lighter
- Cargo net
- Floor mats
- Leather steering wheel trim
- Chrome billet shift knob
- Polished billet shift knob
- Red billet shift knob
- Blue billet shift knob
- Leather seats (dealer option)
- Front 6X9 woofer upgrade ('98-'00)
- Cassette player
- CD changer
- Engine heater
- Polished billet oil cap
- Red billet oil cap
- Blue billet oil cap
- Polished billet battery tie down
- Red billet battery tie down
- Blue billet battery tie down
- Polished biller spark plug cover ('99-'00 Si)
- Red billet spark plug cover ('99-'00 Si)
- Blue billet spark plug cover ('99-'00 Si)

WhiteOnRice 12-29-2007 09:24 PM

Re: i dont understand.... (sit22 II)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sit22 II &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">v-tec sticker on the sides https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif </TD></TR></TABLE>
All the sveight is in the sticker.


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