How to Stop my head lights from leakin water
05-03-2007, 05:39 PM
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How to Stop my head lights from leakin water
I have JDM smoke headlights in my 1999si the drivers side head light gets water in side when it rains and looks like *** can i reseal it. If so how is it done?
05-03-2007, 06:03 PM
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With the EK's, all you need to do is take them out, and go around the edges with some sealent (clear sillicone), theres no need to take them apart.
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Re: (97Ej6mike)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97Ej6mike »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">With the EK's, all you need to do is take them out, and go around the edges with some sealent (clear sillicone), theres no need to take them apart.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It wouldn't hurt to open them to remove the moisture and residue. Hence why I recommended opening.
It wouldn't hurt to open them to remove the moisture and residue. Hence why I recommended opening.
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05-03-2007, 07:19 PM
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You dont need to open them to remove the moisture. Just use a hairdryer for like a minute or two after you take them off the car. It should clear them up real quick..... that is unless you have a puddle of water in them.
Then like 97Ej6mike said.... just seal them up real with silicone and youre good to go.
Then like 97Ej6mike said.... just seal them up real with silicone and youre good to go.
05-04-2007, 05:22 AM
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I agree, I'd open them up and clean em out. Then heat them back up until they stick back together with the crappy seal. Then run a new seal around the edge.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by amej8 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Oven to open
Take off old silicone
Apply new
Oven to seal up
Sorry if I wasn't making sense the first time.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Does that really work?
Take off old silicone
Apply new
Oven to seal up
Sorry if I wasn't making sense the first time.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Does that really work?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SleeeeepyDX »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Does that really work?
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Yeah why wouldn't it? Makes sense right?
By heating it up the oem silica seal is melted do they two pieces (plastic and housing) come apart.
Then, clean up the inside, and heat it back up to get the seal melted again so it bonds when it's mre viscous.
Then, adding a new seal by using silica-based goop it as simple as running a bead in the edges of the housing.
Does that really work?
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Yeah why wouldn't it? Makes sense right?
By heating it up the oem silica seal is melted do they two pieces (plastic and housing) come apart.
Then, clean up the inside, and heat it back up to get the seal melted again so it bonds when it's mre viscous.
Then, adding a new seal by using silica-based goop it as simple as running a bead in the edges of the housing.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by seadonkeyraypiss »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=282131
step by step instructions </TD></TR></TABLE>
as stated
step by step instructions
</TD></TR></TABLE>as stated
05-04-2007, 09:19 AM
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if you apply silicone and you may want to try and reopen them again it won't work.
silicone melts at 600F so you're screwed. I'd suggest opening up your headlights, take the cheap sealant from your headlights or just remove some of it, buy nissan butil sealant and apply it on top of the sealant that's already sitting on the edges of your reflector housing.
silicone melts at 600F so you're screwed. I'd suggest opening up your headlights, take the cheap sealant from your headlights or just remove some of it, buy nissan butil sealant and apply it on top of the sealant that's already sitting on the edges of your reflector housing.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Striker_1818 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you apply silicone and you may want to try and reopen them again it won't work.
silicone melts at 600F so you're screwed.</TD></TR></TABLE>
silicone melts at 600F so you're screwed.</TD></TR></TABLE>
05-04-2007, 12:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NOFX »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It will break the seal in your oven and it doesn't have to be 600F. It just has to soften it, not melt it to a liquid.</TD></TR></TABLE>
your plastic will melt at 400F...
if you put silicone around, you'll have to dremel your way into it to separate the glass cover with the plastic housing...
your plastic will melt at 400F...
if you put silicone around, you'll have to dremel your way into it to separate the glass cover with the plastic housing...
05-04-2007, 12:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Striker_1818 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
your plastic will melt at 400F...
if you put silicone around, you'll have to dremel your way into it to separate the glass cover with the plastic housing... </TD></TR></TABLE>
Um, dried silicone it like putty anyways. I don't see how 300 degree woudln't turn it back to molasses viscosity at the least.
your plastic will melt at 400F...
if you put silicone around, you'll have to dremel your way into it to separate the glass cover with the plastic housing...
</TD></TR></TABLE>Um, dried silicone it like putty anyways. I don't see how 300 degree woudln't turn it back to molasses viscosity at the least.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Um, dried silicone it like putty anyways. I don't see how 300 degree woudln't turn it back to molasses viscosity at the least.</TD></TR></TABLE>
nope it will still be as hard as a rock on the parts where silicone was applied. That's the thing when i had some versa headlights to retrofit for my friend. They were sealed with silicone! i put them at 200F for 10 mins...nothing...300F for 8 mins...nothing...350F for 10 mins i messed up the tab. It was melting and the silicone was as hard as a rock. So, my friend pretty much bought aftermarket headlights and i had to refund him the money for the messed up headlight i damaged.
Use silicone and you will NEVER get those apart with the oven and heating gun methods. You will have to dremel which sucks.
Um, dried silicone it like putty anyways. I don't see how 300 degree woudln't turn it back to molasses viscosity at the least.</TD></TR></TABLE>
nope it will still be as hard as a rock on the parts where silicone was applied. That's the thing when i had some versa headlights to retrofit for my friend. They were sealed with silicone! i put them at 200F for 10 mins...nothing...300F for 8 mins...nothing...350F for 10 mins i messed up the tab. It was melting and the silicone was as hard as a rock. So, my friend pretty much bought aftermarket headlights and i had to refund him the money for the messed up headlight i damaged.
Use silicone and you will NEVER get those apart with the oven and heating gun methods. You will have to dremel which sucks.
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ive done this numerous times on my ej8 every pair of headlights leak. Clear silicone works great. if you have water take the bulb out and dry it with a hair dryer.
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^^ are you sure it wasn't some other kind of clear adhesive/sealant?
I let some silicone dry for the past few hours on a cookie sheet. it's in the oven right now. I'll let you know the results.
I let some silicone dry for the past few hours on a cookie sheet. it's in the oven right now. I'll let you know the results.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Striker_1818 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your plastic will melt at 400F...
if you put silicone around, you'll have to dremel your way into it to separate the glass cover with the plastic housing... </TD></TR></TABLE>
You don't have to heat them to 400F even...
You only heat them to about 200F. You don't seem to get this.
And '96-'00 Civics have plastic housing, not glass.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Striker_1818 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nope it will still be as hard as a rock on the parts where silicone was applied. That's the thing when i had some versa headlights to retrofit for my friend. They were sealed with silicone! i put them at 200F for 10 mins...nothing...300F for 8 mins...nothing...350F for 10 mins i messed up the tab. It was melting and the silicone was as hard as a rock. So, my friend pretty much bought aftermarket headlights and i had to refund him the money for the messed up headlight i damaged.
Use silicone and you will NEVER get those apart with the oven and heating gun methods. You will have to dremel which sucks.</TD></TR></TABLE>
YOU ARE WRONG.
I have done this before, several times. LOTS of people have done this with no problems in the least. You only heat to about 200-300F tops and the silicone melts enough so that you can pull the headlights apart.
You don't have to dremel.
You don't have to bring it to 600F.
You won't be seperating glass from anything.
Nissan Versa headlights =/= Honda Civic headlights
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^^ are you sure it wasn't some other kind of clear adhesive/sealant?
I let some silicone dry for the past few hours on a cookie sheet. it's in the oven right now. I'll let you know the results.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The little silicone we have on a cookie sheet seems much more difficult to remove from the cookie sheet since the sheet is made of a different material than the headlights.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nWilk666 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ive done this numerous times on my ej8 every pair of headlights leak. Clear silicone works great. if you have water take the bulb out and dry it with a hair dryer.</TD></TR></TABLE>
My two year old stock lights don't leak on bit.
if you put silicone around, you'll have to dremel your way into it to separate the glass cover with the plastic housing...
</TD></TR></TABLE>You don't have to heat them to 400F even...
You only heat them to about 200F. You don't seem to get this.
And '96-'00 Civics have plastic housing, not glass.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Striker_1818 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nope it will still be as hard as a rock on the parts where silicone was applied. That's the thing when i had some versa headlights to retrofit for my friend. They were sealed with silicone! i put them at 200F for 10 mins...nothing...300F for 8 mins...nothing...350F for 10 mins i messed up the tab. It was melting and the silicone was as hard as a rock. So, my friend pretty much bought aftermarket headlights and i had to refund him the money for the messed up headlight i damaged.
Use silicone and you will NEVER get those apart with the oven and heating gun methods. You will have to dremel which sucks.</TD></TR></TABLE>
YOU ARE WRONG.
I have done this before, several times. LOTS of people have done this with no problems in the least. You only heat to about 200-300F tops and the silicone melts enough so that you can pull the headlights apart.
You don't have to dremel.
You don't have to bring it to 600F.
You won't be seperating glass from anything.
Nissan Versa headlights =/= Honda Civic headlights
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^^ are you sure it wasn't some other kind of clear adhesive/sealant?
I let some silicone dry for the past few hours on a cookie sheet. it's in the oven right now. I'll let you know the results.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The little silicone we have on a cookie sheet seems much more difficult to remove from the cookie sheet since the sheet is made of a different material than the headlights.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nWilk666 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ive done this numerous times on my ej8 every pair of headlights leak. Clear silicone works great. if you have water take the bulb out and dry it with a hair dryer.</TD></TR></TABLE>
My two year old stock lights don't leak on bit.
05-04-2007, 06:20 PM
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no crap one thing is silicon ANOTHER thing is sealant. DO NOT confuse both. What is used for BONDING is silicone adhesive. What is used to seal things up is called sealant. Again don't call me and tell me I'm wrong when you can't even distinguish the difference between silicone adhesive which is most knownly called "silicone" and Sealant.
This can become soft and thus split up at 300F.
This can become soft at 600F
This can become soft and thus split up at 300F.
This can become soft at 600F
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Striker_1818 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no crap one thing is silicon ANOTHER thing is sealant. DO NOT confuse both. What is used for BONDING is silicone adhesive. What is used to seal things up is called sealant. Again don't call me and tell me I'm wrong when you can't even distinguish the difference between silicone adhesive which is most knownly called "silicone" and Sealant.
This can become soft and thus split up at 300F.
http://performancenissanparts....8.jpg
This can become soft at 600F
[url]http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL391/6845315/13142601/250407841.jpg[/url[
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We use RTV silicone to reseal headlights (which can also be taken apart with the use of an over). You know... the same stuff labeled SILICONE which you buy at the auto parts store. We don't use the stuff you pictured.
The stock stuff is grey, the stuff most use to reseal them (which again, will come apart in an oven set to around 200-300F) is clear silicone.
http://www.autobarn.net/per80050.html
It becomes SOFT at around 200F.
Either way, you're splitting hairs and you don't seem to be aware of what seals the 6thgen headlights.
This can become soft and thus split up at 300F.
http://performancenissanparts....8.jpg
This can become soft at 600F
[url]http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL391/6845315/13142601/250407841.jpg[/url[
</TD></TR></TABLE>
We use RTV silicone to reseal headlights (which can also be taken apart with the use of an over). You know... the same stuff labeled SILICONE which you buy at the auto parts store. We don't use the stuff you pictured.
The stock stuff is grey, the stuff most use to reseal them (which again, will come apart in an oven set to around 200-300F) is clear silicone.
http://www.autobarn.net/per80050.html
It becomes SOFT at around 200F.
Either way, you're splitting hairs and you don't seem to be aware of what seals the 6thgen headlights.