taimysho0

hello i have a 2000 em1 and im planning to buy a blox lca and a benen tie bar. would these two parts be compatible with eachother or would i need extra parts? also if someone can please give me a step by step of how to install the two. thanks much

speedooo

the lca's go inside the subframe and the tie bar goes outside...theyre compatible

thumper64

Instead of buying the Blox LCAs, just send the money to me. Then go back to using your OEM LCAs or some off an Integra or some decent aftermarket ones.
BLOX MAKES HORRIBLE LCAs!!! THE BUSHINGS GO AFTER A COUPLE MONTHS REGARDLESS OF IF YOU CLOCK THEM OR NOT!!!! DON"T WASTE YOUR MONEY!!!

taimysho0

o really? what are some good brands for LCAs

98civdx

skunk2, function 7, and a few others, oem is best.

alphalanos

+1. And skip the benen tie bar and get an ASR subframe brace. Then later get a swaybar or your choice to go with it. I run a 22mm CTR bar and its nice and oversteery.

bsmith100

Function 7 builds the best lower control arms. They are better than the oem parts.

Da4yoA$$

Very strait forward install...Install the Lca's as you took off the old ones...The Tie bar goes inbetween the 2 using the coresponding bolts....Use alot of Pb blast cause the bolts that hold the strut, lowercontrol arm and hub assembly usually are a pain to remove...many have broken bolts off trying to remove.....Also Put what you want to put on the car....Have had blox Lca's on 2 other cars and no problems as long as there installed right....

Good Luck...

Function7

... or a Function7 subframe brace.



EK's are available now...check with your regular retailers in about 7-10 days for the EG/DC version (above).

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Arthas

Keep your OEM LCA's and spend that money on something that will make a difference other than look "cute".

thumper64

Maybe Blox LCAs went downhill in quality because I installed mine right. I clocked the bushings by supporting the car on jack stands and jacking up the rear end until it lifted the car and then tightened the bolts connecting the LCAs. I looked up the torque specs and actually torqued the bolts. No other suspension parts have been an issue doing this...

And nice to see F7 is making a subframe brace. A little competition is definitely needed.
Just an idea, machining a slot for the swaybar bushings to recess into the brace or supplying or offering bushings that would fit nicely instead of universal fit ones would be nice.

98civdx

Function7--- what are those runing??

i have only heard of 1 time where the blox bushings failed quicly, and they werent installed correctly.
agreed that function7 is great!

OP JUST MAKE SURE YOU PUT ANTI SEIZE ON THOSE BOLTS!!

thumper64

On mine the inner part of the bushings for the shocks were forced downwards. The rubber didn't tear, it's like it was too soft. I contacted Blox and they deny ANY and ALL issues with their LCAs and pretty much called me a liar to my face. So now, I do my part to educate people about their crappy product.

Arthas

And we appreciate it!

98civdx

thats wired,that is the first time i heard that... even with out hearing that, i most likely would still never buy anything from blox... besides there costumer service sucks, the parts arent that high of qualitly.

Function7

Still finalizing the pricing while the first production batch is being run right now. Expect pricing to be around that of our EK brace ($250-$270ish street price).

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blaze the chemi

+1

I have a comptech brace and I hate the fact that I need universal brackets and bushings. I would love to use the ITR brackets and bushings because greasing every 6 months SUCKS!

Flint707

Gang Member!

Function7

The brace is the final product of 4+ years of R&D, and around 8-9 prototypes. We actually made an extensive design study of which direction to go and we ended up going with the universal bushing path for several reasons.

1. It would enable ANY swaybar combo to be used with our brace - there are multiple mounting holes on our brace to accomodate different bushing/bracket sizes from different manufacturers. If you choose our brackets, they are made by Energy Suspension and come with grease nipples as standard (for us).

2. Strength - when installed, our brace applies a pre-loading force to the subframe to add to the rigidity. Machining metal away from the critical areas around the sway bar brackets caused stress risers that messed up the type of pre-loading that we wanted.

3. Cost - we did have a few prototypes with fully machined brackets - and because this added to the cost of the product it would have made us uncompetitive. Doing it the current way gave us the option of offering upgraded machined billet brackets (which in actual fact do not improve performance significantly to justify the cost).

4. Weight - you'll notice our braces are machined to the bare minimum physical dimensions - this was to maximize weight savings wherever possible.

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thumper64

At least being compatible with OEM brackets would be awesome, as I would think the brace should be? The bushing situation sounds awesome as it is though.

Let's say someone didn't care about a couple pounds of extra weight. Could there be an option of basically a half finished piece without the little triangles cut in it? With the theft rate of Hondas, I am a little **** about keeping things looking bland and not drawing attention. I'm probably in the vast minority, but it's something maybe you could take a poll on and see if it's worth considering.

Function7

Actually, we do offer teflon-coated versions of all our products and those are flat black. It looks completely stealth.

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thumper64

Well, that works I suppose.

D3vin

Can't wait for the product to be released. Planning to going LCAs and sway bars, seeing that subframe brace interests me.

Function7

We're making the first full-production run of the EG braces right now and they will be available in about a week.

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98civdx

hurry up lol i have been wanting them form a long time now....